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PONE-D-20-21079 Distinct patterns of activity in individual cortical neurons and local networks in primary somatosensory cortex of mice evoked by mechanical limb stimulation PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Winship, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The manuscript should be seriously revised to provide details and justify some applied methods, address questions regarding statistical analysis, and discuss results in the context of recent publications to address the reviewers' concerns: These results are not all entirely novel and the authors do not convincingly highlight their importance. The reader is left wondering what exactly this paper tries to convey about cortical coding of somatosensory stimuli. 1. Why do the authors use square wave stimuli instead of pure sinusoids? Sinusoidal stimuli were used in almost all seminal studies on vibrotactile neural coding in the somatosensory periphery and cortex. This therefore makes it problematic to compare the author’s results to those of previous studies. Also, square wave stimuli have harmonics and it is therefore misleading to label a stimulus with a single frequency value (e.g. 300 Hz). 2. It should be discussed how used artificial stimuli are correlated with native ones. For example, it is not clear how physiological are high frequency stimulation at 100, 200, and particularly 300 Hz for the skin of mice? Are rapidly adapted receptors in the skin suitable for discrimination these high frequency stimuli? 3. A recent study by Prsa et al. (Nature 2019) has performed a similar set of very thorough experiments with regards to the mapping of S1 neurons to forelimb vibrations. While the present manuscript offers data in a slightly different frequency range (3-300 Hz as compared to Prsa et al. ~100Hz – 1kHz) and combines both forelimb and hindlimb stimulation, the authors do little to highlight these differences to emphasize the advance of the present work. Moreover, the present work is done in anesthetized animals under urethane anesthesia whereas Prsa et al. report responses from awake behaving animals; cortical responses are likely heavily impacted by anesthesia, making the interpretability of the stimulus-response properties of the neurons reported here a challenge. 4. The analysis of single cell tuning to frequency would benefit from being expanded to better support claim 1) in the babstract. The authors declare a cell to be “responding” or “not responding” to a given frequency based on a threshold instead of reporting complete tuning curves to all frequencies. For example, are some neurons tuned to a specific frequency, but have wide tuning curves (i.e., have small but significant responses to frequencies near the preferred frequency) whereas others have narrow tuning bands (i.e,. respond robustly to only one frequency?). Are the neurons that respond to multiple frequencies simply thresholded (i.e., they respond similarly to all stimulations above a given frequency). a. The data in Fig 2C are not convincing of an example neuron that responds specifically to a single frequency, and draws into question the robustness of the thresholding approach. Showing tuning curves and parameterizing those tuning curves (preferred frequency and modulation depth) would be preferable. 5. The correlation matrix analyses are confounded by the fact that the network is overall more active during higher frequency stimulations and thus this analysis is overly complicated for the result that is being shown. The population is more active during high-frequency stimulations, forcing correlations between neurons to be higher during high-frequency stimulations. If some neurons are not recruited by low frequency stimuli, but are for high frequency stimuli, the structure of the correlation map will necessarily change. It is unclear what is gained from the correlation maps over reporting the number/identity of recruited neurons at each frequency, and the latter would be more intuitive. Clustering the correlation matrices and showing that neurons belong to different clusters for different stimulations, or showing that hindlimb/forelimb populations drop out may help bring relevance to the correlation maps. 6. Regarding the stimulus-evoked pair-wise correlation analysis, the authors should carry out a randomization test where they shuffle the stimulus timings and repeat the analysis over a large number of iterations (>1000). The correlation coefficients obtained with the non-shuffled data should then be compared to the confidence intervals of the shuffled data to test for significance. Indeed, the obtained correlation data might have nothing to do with the stimulus but be intrinsic to the neural network or possibly be even noise correlations. 7. The hindlimb and forelimb populations could be analyzed separately to better characterize each population. For example, perhaps hindlimb neurons are responsive to all frequencies, but forelimb neurons are only responsive to high frequencies. This means that the increase in numbers of neurons active during high frequency stimulation is simply due to the forelimb being sensitive only to high frequencies. Moreover, we might expect the hindlimb neurons to be correlated with one another over the forelimb and vice versa. 8. The energy of the stimuli are not properly matched (100Hz stimulations have much more energy than 3Hz stimulations). The authors identify this possible confound that higher frequency simply contain “more stimulation” than lower frequency stimuli. To address this the authors present high frequency, short duration stimuli, but do not compare those to the low frequency, long duration responses. Comparing the responses between short high frequency and long low frequency stimulations would be welcome. 9. The authors claim that all their vibratory stimuli had an amplitude of 1 mm. How exactly was this calibrated? A thorough description of the measurement apparatus and procedure is missing. This is key because it is crucial to demonstrate that the vibration amplitude did not vary across different frequencies. The limb load might not be equally displaced by a 300 Hz vibration than by a 3 Hz vibration. Why was such a high amplitude chosen? Previous studies in rodents used an order of magnitude smaller amplitudes (in the um range) which evoked highly reliable responses and is already well beyond their perceptual thresholds. It therefore seems highly plausible that the 1 mm oscillations evoked highly saturated neural responses, which are definitely not in the natural perceptual range of mice. 10. Very little technical detail is given about the stimulation apparatus and procedure (p.5, lines 112 and 113). How big is the actuator and its end point? How was it driven? At what sampling rate? With what amplifier? Was a sensor used to measure the actual movement that was produced? How was the stimulus integrity assured? Was it consistent across several repetitions? 11. A threshold criterion was used to identify responsive neurons. Why was this preferred to statistical tests? Was this analysis done on the average traces or on every single trial? The authors claim that this procedure was “optimal for separating responsive neurons from noise”, but based on what criteria? 12. Two-photon image processing and determination of responding neurons, Line#165: Authors indicate that threshold response criteria for Ca2+ fluorescence is 3X increase of standard deviation of fluorescence. However, in Results Line 270 they use another criteria “strongly responsive” neurons in which Ca2+ transient of ΔF/F0 > 10%. The approach for identification of responses should be clarified in Method section. Major concerns: - Page 3, lines 62-65: this statement should be nuanced. A limb flexion through a single axis of motion certainly does not recruit all mechanoreceptor types and certainly not equally (it will preferentially recruit proprioceptors). - Page 3, lines 65-70: it is not clear what the point of this sentence is. What do the authors try to convey here and how does it relate to their experiments? - The authors use “limb movement” and “limb vibration” interchangeably throughout the manuscript. These are fundamentally different stimuli with each having its own specialized mechanoreceptors (Meissner and Pacinian corpuscles transduce vibrations and proprioceptors transduce limb movement). - Page 6, line 123: can you give the precise coordinates of the imaging sites and how do these compare to those previously reported for the location of the forelimb and hindlimb S1? - Page 6, line 132: why is the impedance of the pipette relevant for injections? - Page 7, line 153: the authors should explain what “photon-shot noise” is. - Page 8, line 169: a detailed description of the AUC analysis is missing. What exactly is being classified here? What does “half-width” refer to? Where is time-to-peak analyzed in the results? - Page 8, lines 179-181: was the data z-scored prior to calculating the correlation coefficients? - Page 9, line 189: a better description of the “seed-based” analysis is needed. - The stimulus evoked trace in figure 2C does not appear to be an actual calcium transient, but looks more like noise fluctuations. Is this the best available example for a 10 Hz selective neuron? Is this bump that appears in the average trace only due to a single trial or does it reliably appear across multiple trials? - In general, the authors cannot rule out frequency selective responses because of the limited number of frequencies tested. We do not know what happens beyond 300 Hz. - Page 12, lines 266-267: could this be due to saturated Ca responses? In general, why is the decay of the calcium transient relevant? What does it reflect exactly? - Page 14, lines 299-300: or could it be due to the fact that nearby neurons have more similar expression levels? - Page 14, lines 308-310: how does this compare to analysing the pre- or post- stimulus baseline period and also is it significant when running a randomization test with shuffled data? - Page 14, lines 312-313: could this simply be due to the fact that higher frequencies have stronger and more frequent responses and thus yield higher correlation coefficients? Was Z scoring performed? - Page 15, lines 340-342: It is not clear what this means or implies. - Page 16, lines 351-352: the authors compare 0.1 s and 0.05 s stimulus durations with 1 s durations (a 10 to 20 fold duration difference). Why such big differences and such short stimuli? A 50 ms vibration will hardly evoke any spikes. - Page 16, lines 359-360: how do the authors explain this? - In 2BC, labels for the frequency of stimulation would be helpful. - The analysis of the population dF/F (Fig 3A) does not provide much insight. While not incorrect, there is little gain in understanding of encoding properties by showing the population as a whole is more active when the authors have shown in the previous figure that the number of neurons recruited is increased for higher frequency stimuli. The amplitude, decay time and AUC are all strongly related to each other, as calcium signals are subject to decay. It is unclear what the additional functional significance is of the AUC or decay time being different across stimulation frequencies. - The choice of a square wave pulse for the stimulation is a minor caveat, as the abrupt changes in limb direction at the onset and offset of the square wave will cause high frequency ringing/vibration of the limb that will depend on the intrinsic characteristics of the limb. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 31 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In their study, Bandet et al. use calcium imaging of neuronal populations in the mouse somatosensory cortex to show that distinct vibrotactile stimuli are represented with distinct patterns of neuronal activation. They report that somatosensory cortex neurons distinguish between different frequencies of forelimb and hindlimb stimulation in the following manner: - The number of neurons responding to high frequency (100 Hz, 200 Hz and 300 Hz) stimuli is greater than the number of neurons responding to low frequency (3 Hz and 10 Hz) stimuli (Fig. 1E). - The response amplitude of neurons (i.e. size of calcium transients) is independent of stimulus frequency. - High frequency stimuli evoke longer decays of calcium transients and AUC values, but these two measures do not scale linearly with frequency. - Pair wise stimulus evoked correlations between neurons varied between different stimulus frequencies. Higher frequency stimuli had higher correlations. - Longer duration stimuli evoke more consistent activity patterns than shorter stimuli. These results are not all entirely novel and the authors do not convincingly highlight their importance. The reader is left wondering what exactly this paper tries to convey about cortical coding of somatosensory stimuli. There are several important issues and questions that the authors should address. These are listed here below. 1. Why do the authors use square wave stimuli instead of pure sinusoids? Sinusoidal stimuli were used in almost all seminal studies on vibrotactile neural coding in the somatosensory periphery and cortex. This therefore makes it problematic to compare the author’s results to those of previous studies. Also, square wave stimuli have harmonics and it is therefore misleading to label a stimulus with a single frequency value (e.g. 300 Hz). 2. The authors claim that all their vibratory stimuli had an amplitude of 1 mm. How exactly was this calibrated? A thorough description of the measurement apparatus and procedure is missing. This is key because it is crucial to demonstrate that the vibration amplitude did not vary across different frequencies. The limb load might not be equally displaced by a 300 Hz vibration than by a 3 Hz vibration. Why was such a high amplitude chosen? Previous studies in rodents used an order of magnitude smaller amplitudes (in the um range) which evoked highly reliable responses and is already well beyond their perceptual thresholds. It therefore seems highly plausible that the 1 mm oscillations evoked highly saturated neural responses, which are definitely not in the natural perceptual range of mice. 3. Very little technical detail is given about the stimulation apparatus and procedure (p.5, lines 112 and 113). How big is the actuator and its end point? How was it driven? At what sampling rate? With what amplifier? Was a sensor used to measure the actual movement that was produced? How was the stimulus integrity assured? Was it consistent across several repetitions? Etc… 4. A threshold criterion was used to identify responsive neurons. Why was this preferred to statistical tests? Was this analysis done on the average traces or on every single trial? The authors claim that this procedure was “optimal for separating responsive neurons from noise”, but based on what criteria? 5. Regarding the stimulus-evoked pair-wise correlation analysis, the authors should carry out a randomization test where they shuffle the stimulus timings and repeat the analysis over a large number of iterations (>1000). The correlation coefficients obtained with the non-shuffled data should then be compared to the confidence intervals of the shuffled data to test for significance. Indeed, the obtained correlation data might have nothing to do with the stimulus but be intrinsic to the neural network or possibly be even noise correlations. Additional comments/questions: - Page 3, lines 62-65: this statement should be nuanced. A limb flexion through a single axis of motion certainly does not recruit all mechanoreceptor types and certainly not equally (it will preferentially recruit proprioceptors). - Page 3, lines 65-70: it is not clear what the point of this sentence is. What do the authors try to convey here and how does it relate to their experiments? - The authors use “limb movement” and “limb vibration” interchangeably throughout the manuscript. These are fundamentally different stimuli with each having its own specialized mechanoreceptors (Meissner and Pacinian corpuscles transduce vibrations and proprioceptors transduce limb movement). - Page 6, line 123: can you give the precise coordinates of the imaging sites and how do these compare to those previously reported for the location of the forelimb and hindlimb S1? - Page 6, line 132: why is the impedance of the pipette relevant for injections? - Page 7, line 153: the authors should explain what “photon-shot noise” is. - Page 8, line 169: a detailed description of the AUC analysis is missing. What exactly is being classified here? What does “half-width” refer to? Where is time-to-peak analyzed in the results? - Page 8, lines 179-181: was the data z-scored prior to calculating the correlation coefficients? - Page 9, line 189: a better description of the “seed-based” analysis is needed. - The stimulus evoked trace in figure 2C does not appear to be an actual calcium transient, but looks more like noise fluctuations. Is this the best available example for a 10 Hz selective neuron? Is this bump that appears in the average trace only due to a single trial or does it reliably appear across multiple trials? - In general, the authors cannot rule out frequency selective responses because of the limited number of frequencies tested. We do not know what happens beyond 300 Hz. - Page 12, lines 266-267: could this be due to saturated Ca responses? In general, why is the decay of the calcium transient relevant? What does it reflect exactly? - Page 14, lines 299-300: or could it be due to the fact that nearby neurons have more similar expression levels? - Page 14, lines 308-310: how does this compare to analysing the pre- or post- stimulus baseline period and also is it significant when running a randomization test with shuffled data? - Page 14, lines 312-313: could this simply be due to the fact that higher frequencies have stronger and more frequent responses and thus yield higher correlation coefficients? Was Z scoring performed? - Page 15, lines 340-342: It is not clear what this means or implies. - Page 16, lines 351-352: the authors compare 0.1 s and 0.05 s stimulus durations with 1 s durations (a 10 to 20 fold duration difference). Why such big differences and such short stimuli? A 50 ms vibration will hardly evoke any spikes. - Page 16, lines 359-360: how do the authors explain this? Reviewer #2: The paper entitled: “Distinct patterns of activity in individual cortical neurons and local networks in primary somatosensory cortex of mice evoked by mechanical limb stimulation” is dedicated to the very important problem of encoding at the level of the somatosensory cortex. This work is important because for now mechanisms and principles of specificity and qualitative separation of sensory signals are not elucidated enough. Authors used very sensitive method of two-photon microscopy for visualization of neuronal activation in vivo for study of cortical networks involved in encoding of mechanical stimuli. Approach is appropriate, well developed data collection and statistical analyses makes the results rigorous and argumentative. The manuscript could be accepted for publication. I just would like to add few minor comments, which, in my opinion, could improve it. 1). Two-photon image processing and determination of responding neurons, Line#165: Authors indicate that threshold response criteria for Ca2+ fluorescence is 3X increase of standard deviation of fluorescence. However, in Results Line 270 they use another criteria “strongly responsive” neurons in which Ca2+ transient of ΔF/F0 > 10%. The approach for identification of responses should be clarified in Method section. 2). It should be discussed how used artificial stimuli are correlated with native ones. For example, it is not clear how physiological are high frequency stimulation at 100, 200, and particularly 300 Hz for the skin of mice? Are rapidly adapted receptors in the skin suitable for discrimination these high frequency stimuli? Reviewer #3: In this manuscript, Bandet et al. characterize the response properties of S1 cortical neurons to mechanical vibration of the forelimb and hindlimb using Ca2+ imaging. Unfortunately, a recent study by Prsa et al. (Nature 2019) has performed a similar set of very thorough experiments with regards to the mapping of S1 neurons to forelimb vibrations. While the present manuscript offers data in a slightly different frequency range (3-300 Hz as compared to Prsa et al. ~100Hz – 1kHz) and combines both forelimb and hindlimb stimulation, the authors do little to highlight these differences to emphasize the advance of the present work. Moreover, the present work is done in anesthetized animals under urethane anesthesia whereas Prsa et al. report responses from awake behaving animals; cortical responses are likely heavily impacted by anesthesia, making the interpretability of the stimulus-response properties of the neurons reported here a challenge. That said, the data collected are of high quality and technically sound, and the manuscript could be improved with some revisions to the analyses listed below. The abstract states the main results to be: 1) S1 neurons fall into 2 categories: frequency specific responses, or responsive to multiple frequencies 2) High frequency stimulation recruits more of the population, both in number of cells recruited and the magnitude of each cell’s activity. 3) Taken as a population, the pattern of activities are unique for individual stimuli. Major concerns: 1) The analysis of single cell tuning to frequency would benefit from being expanded to better support claim 1) in the babstract. The authors declare a cell to be “responding” or “not responding” to a given frequency based on a threshold instead of reporting complete tuning curves to all frequencies. For example, are some neurons tuned to a specific frequency, but have wide tuning curves (i.e., have small but significant responses to frequencies near the preferred frequency) whereas others have narrow tuning bands (i.e,. respond robustly to only one frequency?). Are the neurons that respond to multiple frequencies simply thresholded (i.e., they respond similarly to all stimulations above a given frequency). a. The data in Fig 2C are not convincing of an example neuron that responds specifically to a single frequency, and draws into question the robustness of the thresholding approach. Showing tuning curves and parameterizing those tuning curves (preferred frequency and modulation depth) would be preferable. 2) The correlation matrix analyses are confounded by the fact that the network is overall more active during higher frequency stimulations and thus this analysis is overly complicated for the result that is being shown. The population is more active during high-frequency stimulations, forcing correlations between neurons to be higher during high-frequency stimulations. If some neurons are not recruited by low frequency stimuli, but are for high frequency stimuli, the structure of the correlation map will necessarily change. It is unclear what is gained from the correlation maps over reporting the number/identity of recruited neurons at each frequency, and the latter would be more intuitive. Clustering the correlation matrices and showing that neurons belong to different clusters for different stimulations, or showing that hindlimb/forelimb populations drop out may help bring relevance to the correlation maps. 3) The hindlimb and forelimb populations could be analyzed separately to better characterize each population. For example, perhaps hindlimb neurons are responsive to all frequencies, but forelimb neurons are only responsive to high frequencies. This means that the increase in numbers of neurons active during high frequency stimulation is simply due to the forelimb being sensitive only to high frequencies. Moreover, we might expect the hindlimb neurons to be correlated with one another over the forelimb and vice versa. 4) The energy of the stimuli are not properly matched (100Hz stimulations have much more energy than 3Hz stimulations). The authors identify this possible confound that higher frequency simply contain “more stimulation” than lower frequency stimuli. To address this the authors present high frequency, short duration stimuli, but do not compare those to the low frequency, long duration responses. Comparing the responses between short high frequency and long low frequency stimulations would be welcome. Minor concerns: 1) In 2BC, labels for the frequency of stimulation would be helpful. 2) The analysis of the population dF/F (Fig 3A) does not provide much insight. While not incorrect, there is little gain in understanding of encoding properties by showing the population as a whole is more active when the authors have shown in the previous figure that the number of neurons recruited is increased for higher frequency stimuli. The amplitude, decay time and AUC are all strongly related to each other, as calcium signals are subject to decay. It is unclear what the additional functional significance is of the AUC or decay time being different across stimulation frequencies. 3) The choice of a square wave pulse for the stimulation is a minor caveat, as the abrupt changes in limb direction at the onset and offset of the square wave will cause high frequency ringing/vibration of the limb that will depend on the intrinsic characteristics of the limb. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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PONE-D-20-21079R1 Distinct patterns of activity in individual cortical neurons and local networks in primary somatosensory cortex of mice evoked by square-wave mechanical limb stimulation PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Winship, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please, revise the manuscript address concerns raised by reviewer #1. Abstract: - Lines 36-39: Please, rephrase for clarity : “process dissimilar stimuli with distinct patterns of activity” and “represent distinct […] stimuli with unique patterns of activity”. Introduction: - Lines 58-59: Please, provide references to studies using square-wave pulses “as measures of cortical excitability and plastic changes during disease or after injury”? - Lines 60-61: This sentence should be nuanced. Literature on the somatosensory system of rodents is quite extensive if taking into account the vibrissae system. - Lines 61-62: Rodents are certainly not the “most prominent animal model used to study reaching and upper limb use and disability”. Sensorimotor studies on the rodent upper limb system have emerged only relatively recently. This system has been traditionally and most prominently studied in non-human primates. Also the reference that is cited here ([3]) has nothing to do with upper limb use and reaching, it instead provides a general comparison between rats and mice as models in biomedical research. - Lines 67-73: Please, edit for clarity. - Lines 96-98: Please, consider rewriting by more specifically stating the actual findings. Methods - Lines 142-143: Can the authors provide the coordinates relative to bregma of the identified cFL and cHL areas? This was asked in the previous revision but was not answered! - In the initial review, I asked the authors to provide information about the actual amplitude of vibrations produced at each frequency. The authors replied that they amended the methods with the following information: “During stimulation, the entire limb underwent an oscillation with the following peak-peak amplitudes by frequency: 280um (3 & 10Hz), 335um (100Hz), 220um (200Hz), 170um (300Hz).”. No detail is however given about how these amplitudes were measured! The authors mention that they “imaged the limb oscillations” with no additional technical detail. A 300 Hz oscillation would require a minimum 600 fps frame rate to capture the movement amplitude. Also, the following questions were not answered: At what sampling rate were the oscillations produced? How was the stimulus integrity assured? Was it consistent across several repetitions? Results Fig. 2B,C: The traces correspond to averages of 8 trials (no information about trail-to-trial variability is given). Can the authors also show the individual Ca traces from every trial? What do the polygons in the bottom panels represent (they are not mentioned in the figure legend)? Also, the labels on these polygons are tiny and thus unreadable. Lines 268-270: This is entirely qualitative. Can the authors demonstrate statistically that the responses of these example neurons show stimulus specificity? Fig.2: According to the activity maps in Fig.2A and 2D, a relatively large number of neurons is driven by the vibrotactile stimulation. This is in contradiction to what has previously been reported for L2/3 of the somatosensory cortex. Even in awake behaving mice, evoked activity by tactile stimulation remains very sparse. O’Connor et al. (Neuron, 2010) found that “A sparse subset of L2/3 neurons showed robust fluorescence transients […] high event rates were seen in only a small subset of neurons, with the majority showing low, near zero, event rates” in the vibrissae S1. Prsa et al. (Nature, 2019) reported 1,285 responsive neurons from 75 fields of view in the forelimb S1, yielding ca. 17 neurons per field of view. The authors found a much larger number of responding neurons under anaesthesia (Fig.2A,D). Can the authors quantify these numbers and how do they explain the discrepancy with previous studies? The authors also avoided addressing the following comment from the previous revision: “Why was such a high amplitude chosen? Previous studies in rodents used an order of magnitude smaller amplitudes (in the um range) which evoked highly reliable responses and is already well beyond their perceptual thresholds. It therefore seems highly plausible that the 1 mm oscillations evoked highly saturated neural responses, which are definitely not in the natural perceptual range of mice.” The following question from the previous revision was not answered: “A threshold criterion was used to identify responsive neurons. Was this analysis done on the average traces or on every single trial? The authors claim that this procedure was “optimal for separating responsive neurons from noise”, but based on what criteria?” The authors still state in the manuscript that their criterion is “optimal”. How is optimality assessed? Compared to what? The authors gave the following answer to the question regarding the analysis of the Ca transient decay: “If we were to speculate, a longer decay tau for the population response to high frequency stimuli may indicate that the neuronal population takes longer to desensitize in its firing rate over the period of the 1 second stimulation leading to a longer calcium transient. This however would have to be shown in future studies measuring the desensitization of spiking activity using electrical neurophysiology instead of calcium imaging due to the slow temporal dynamics of calcium imaging.” I agree with the authors that this is highly speculative and also still do not understand why it is relevant to analyze the decay. I would suggest removing this analysis from the manuscript. The following question from the previous revision was not answered: “Page 12, lines 266-267: could this be due to saturated Ca responses?” The authors answered the following in the previous revision: “We agree with the reviewers interpretation; it is likely that the stronger and more frequent responses to higher frequency stimuli directly lead to the higher average crosscorrelation measured.” The authors should therefore clearly state this in their manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Mar 11 2021 11:59PM. 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Moreover, the authors now state that the main contribution of their work is that the “characterization of the distinct patterns of neural activity elicited by such stimuli is of importance as these forms of squarewave stimulation are used in multiple fields outside of the study of sensory coding, such as in the observation of cortical recovery from damage or disease.” It however remains unclear what exact implication these results can have on studies of cortical recovery from disease or other studies using similar sensory stimulation. The authors must do a better job arguing this point, beyond simple hand-waving. Otherwise, I really do not see the point of this manuscript and its results. Abstract: - Lines 36-39: I have trouble understanding the difference between “process dissimilar stimuli with distinct patterns of activity” and “represent distinct […] stimuli with unique patterns of activity”. Introduction: - Lines 58-59: Can the authors provide references to studies using square-wave pulses “as measures of cortical excitability and plastic changes during disease or after injury”? - Lines 60-61: This sentence should be nuanced. Literature on the somatosensory system of rodents is quite extensive if taking into account the vibrissae system. - Lines 61-62: Rodents are certainly not the “most prominent animal model used to study reaching and upper limb use and disability”. Sensorimotor studies on the rodent upper limb system have emerged only relatively recently. This system has been traditionally and most prominently studied in non-human primates. Also the reference that is cited here ([3]) has nothing to do with upper limb use and reaching, it instead provides a general comparison between rats and mice as models in biomedical research. - Lines 67-69: Why is this point relevant here? Do the authors work towards solving this issue in their study? - Lines 70-73: I don’t understand how this sentence relates to the previous one. - Lines 96-98: I find this description too vague. Consider rewriting by more specifically stating the actual findings. Methods - Lines 142-143: Can the authors provide the coordinates relative to bregma of the identified cFL and cHL areas? This was asked in the previous revision but was not answered! - In the initial review, I asked the authors to provide information about the actual amplitude of vibrations produced at each frequency. The authors replied that they amended the methods with the following information: “During stimulation, the entire limb underwent an oscillation with the following peak-peak amplitudes by frequency: 280um (3 & 10Hz), 335um (100Hz), 220um (200Hz), 170um (300Hz).”. No detail is however given about how these amplitudes were measured! The authors mention that they “imaged the limb oscillations” with no additional technical detail. A 300 Hz oscillation would require a minimum 600 fps frame rate to capture the movement amplitude. Also, the following questions were not answered: At what sampling rate were the oscillations produced? How was the stimulus integrity assured? Was it consistent across several repetitions? Results Fig. 2B,C: The traces correspond to averages of 8 trials (no information about trail-to-trial variability is given). Can the authors also show the individual Ca traces from every trial? What do the polygons in the bottom panels represent (they are not mentioned in the figure legend)? Also, the labels on these polygons are tiny and thus unreadable. Lines 268-270: This is entirely qualitative. Can the authors demonstrate statistically that the responses of these example neurons show stimulus specificity? Fig.2: According to the activity maps in Fig.2A and 2D, a relatively large number of neurons is driven by the vibrotactile stimulation. This is in contradiction to what has previously been reported for L2/3 of the somatosensory cortex. Even in awake behaving mice, evoked activity by tactile stimulation remains very sparse. O’Connor et al. (Neuron, 2010) found that “A sparse subset of L2/3 neurons showed robust fluorescence transients […] high event rates were seen in only a small subset of neurons, with the majority showing low, near zero, event rates” in the vibrissae S1. Prsa et al. (Nature, 2019) reported 1,285 responsive neurons from 75 fields of view in the forelimb S1, yielding ca. 17 neurons per field of view. The authors found a much larger number of responding neurons under anaesthesia (Fig.2A,D). Can the authors quantify these numbers and how do they explain the discrepancy with previous studies? The authors also avoided addressing the following comment from the previous revision: “Why was such a high amplitude chosen? Previous studies in rodents used an order of magnitude smaller amplitudes (in the um range) which evoked highly reliable responses and is already well beyond their perceptual thresholds. It therefore seems highly plausible that the 1 mm oscillations evoked highly saturated neural responses, which are definitely not in the natural perceptual range of mice.” The following question from the previous revision was not answered: “A threshold criterion was used to identify responsive neurons. Was this analysis done on the average traces or on every single trial? The authors claim that this procedure was “optimal for separating responsive neurons from noise”, but based on what criteria?” The authors still state in the manuscript that their criterion is “optimal”. How is optimality assessed? Compared to what? The authors gave the following answer to the question regarding the analysis of the Ca transient decay: “If we were to speculate, a longer decay tau for the population response to high frequency stimuli may indicate that the neuronal population takes longer to desensitize in its firing rate over the period of the 1 second stimulation leading to a longer calcium transient. This however would have to be shown in future studies measuring the desensitization of spiking activity using electrical neurophysiology instead of calcium imaging due to the slow temporal dynamics of calcium imaging.” I agree with the authors that this is highly speculative and also still do not understand why it is relevant to analyse the decay. I would suggest removing this analysis from the manuscript. The following question from the previous revision was not answered: “Page 12, lines 266-267: could this be due to saturated Ca responses?” The authors answered the following in the previous revision: “We agree with the reviewers interpretation; it is likely that the stronger and more frequent responses to higher frequency stimuli directly lead to the higher average crosscorrelation measured.” The authors should therefore clearly state this in their manuscript. Reviewer #2: After the revision quality of the manuscript was significantly improved and, in my opinion, it is ready for publication. Reviewer #3: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. 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