Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionFebruary 18, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-04748 Different Race Paces and Race Profiles in the best runners on Berlin´s Marathon PLOS ONE Dear Dr Mecías Calvo, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. While the referees have scored low this manuscript, I would expect it may be considered when all the concerns raised by the referees be addressed in another round of reviews. Importantly, an English revision by a mother tongue scientist is required before further considerations. Therefore, this Editor would like to give a chance to the authors but clearly stating that this does not necessarily means that the manuscript was finally accepted. The major reason for this is the novelty of the results. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by May 29 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please ensure that you include a title page within your main document. We do appreciate that you have a title page document uploaded as a separate file, however, as per our author guidelines (http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-title-page) we do require this to be part of the manuscript file itself and not uploaded separately. Could you therefore please include the title page into the beginning of your manuscript file itself, listing all authors and affiliations. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This study analyzed pacing behaviours displayed by 2295 runners in the 2017 Berlin marathon. The primary finding was that after speeds were normalised to race average, there were few differences between athletes of different absolute performance levels in males, but in females there were a large number of differences between groups at various points. Unfortunately, as it stands, I feel the quality of English language used is insufficient to allow publication of the paper in its current format as there are numerous grammatical errors throughout. The work would greatly benefit from detailed proofreading , as there are a lot of places when the meaning of statements is unclear. Furthermore (although the findings are slightly surprising & differ from many other analyses in the literature) I dont really see what is novel about this study or what it brings to the body of literature on pacing. The rationale is quite 'shaky' and you cant determine what stategy an athlete 'should' adopt based on a descriptive study of one race such as this. Methodology is generally sound, but the groupings of athletes seems arbitrary and requires justification. for example the >3 hours group in males potentially covers a very wide range of abilities who may have widely varying motivational profiles. Reviewer #2: The current study examines the pacing strategies conducted by a great number of runners competing at 2017 Berlin of Marathon and compare these strategies by level of performance. They also describe separately the different profiles observed in males and females. This study is interesting given the great number of runners nowadays who train for running marathon races and I also find interesting the specific comparison made between pacing strategies conducted by elite and recreational runners. However, I have major concerns which should be addressed by authors prior to consider myself the present manuscript suitable for publication. On the one hand, the manuscript contains several grammar mistakes throughout which should be corrected. I encouraged authors to ask for the help of a native English speaker to conduct these corrections. On the other hand, I suggest authors to distribute differently the narrative structure which may explain the findings obtained in a more thorough way. Specific comments are raised below. Title: I suggest a more correct (grammar) and precise title: ‘Different race pacing strategies among runners covering the 2017 Berlin Marathon under 3 hours and 30 minutes’ Abstract: No reference to the specific race from which data was taken was made. I also miss some descriptions regarding the specific pacing profiles conducted by both women and men. No reference was made to the data normalization process conducted prior to conducting the different comparisons. This is a critical aspect which should be highlighted. I think that removing some of the specific results found or summarizing them through the indication of ranges rather is needed to include these necessary points suggested. Introduction: Authors failed to structure adequately the introduction. In the current study the influence of two main variables (i,e., sex and level of performance) on performance outcomes was measured. Therefore, the introduction should focus on explaining the existing evidence describing the typical pacing strategies observed in elite runners and runners who possesses lower performance level as well as the differences observed by sex. Results from current evidence should be explained according to these aspects. Methods: Results: The table 3 is not clearly indicated. For example, it is not clear which comparisons belong to each split. Figure 3 and 4 are difficult be understood. For example, no reference to the meaning of X and Y axes is indicated in the legend. It should be clarified. Discussion: From L141 to L165 authors just describe the results found without discussing them according to existing research. This should be part of the results rather than the discussion. Referencing swimming studies is not worth in the discussion of a pacing analysis in marathon given the amount of existing pacing studies focused specifically on the marathon race. According to the structure suggested for the introduction, authors are encouraged to compare the outcomes observed in the current study separately. For example, comparing the pacing profile observed in elite runners with results observed in existing research focused specifically on elite runners. Same should be done with research focused on runners with lower level of performance. Additionnaly, same should be done when comparing observations made in female runners as some previous research just focused on this specific population. In this sense, I miss the reference to studies strongly related to this specific topic which focused on pacing strategies conducted in marathon runners. In addition, when conducting studies of such type, there are some limitations which should be addressed in the text. For example, the influence of running in a group on the pacing strategy selected was not even mentioned. As long as the level of performance is decreasing, the density of runners representing the number of participants running together is also increasing. For example, it is very likely that a higher proportion of runners belonging to the Elite group dropped out from the group they were running with and had to run individually. As the influence of this type of circumstances was not analyzed, this should be stated as a limitation. Hanley (5) studied the influence of running in a group (packing) in elite marathons. In addition, Renfree and Casado reviewed the different existing influences in Athletic races which transform them in complex systems. Renfree A., Casado A. (2018) Athletics races represent complex systems and pacing behavior should be viewed as emergent phenomenon. Frontiers in Physiology. https://doi.org/10.3389/fphys.2018.01432 Furthermore, very likely those runners achieving lower level of performance experienced difficulties to run at a given pace in the beginning of the race as in crowdy races such as Berlin Marathon many runners start the race together and they usually get blocked. This also represents a limitation of this study which should be stated specially when referring to the specific comparison made between groups of different level of performance. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files to be viewed.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. 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PONE-D-20-04748R1 Different race pacing strategies among runners covering the 2017 Berlin Marathon under 3 hours and 30 minutes PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Mecías Calvo, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please, after consideration of the reviewer's requests, ask a mother tongue sport scientist to revise the manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 07 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Daniel Boullosa Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I thank the authors for the revisions to the manuscript. However, there are still numerous grammatical errors that should be corrected before it can be considered suitable for publication. Specifically: Abstract Line 15 – change to analyse different pacing behaviours, not ‘race paces’ (which will obviously be higher in faster runners) Line 22 – change to ‘no statistically significant changes were found…’ Line 23 – change to ‘a large number of significant differences between splits and groups were found amongst women’ Line 29-30. Not clear what you mean Line 30-32, As above. Do you mean a positive profile was the most commonly displayed one? Introduction Line 38 – The marathon is one of the most popular… Line 41 – delete ‘in the race day’ Line 44 – replace ‘pointed out’ with ‘demonstrated’ Line 47-8 – have been implicated in the determination of pacing behaviour Line 57 – delete ‘a’ Line 58 – delete ‘the’ before performance Line 59 – 60: makes little sense Line 62 – change for to by Line 64 – change dramatically to dramatic Line 66- change the runners to ‘runners’ Line 67 – change ‘pf the ‘ to ‘towards a’ Line 71 – change deep speed drop to ‘large speed reduction’ Line 74 – change ‘main’ to ‘largely’ Line 75 – what do you mean by ‘broader’? higher? Line 77 – ‘may be more important in determining…’ Line 78 – change ease to ‘assist’ Line 81 – change ‘which answers to’ to ‘corresponding to…’ Line 83 – delete ‘made’ Line 89 – change ‘making’ to ‘displaying’ Line 91 – change ‘greater’ to ‘superior’ Line 95 – change ‘race paces’ to race profiles displayed in the same marathon Method 102 – what do you mean by ‘recorded the split’? Line 102 – what is an atypical record? Line 106 – changed ‘records were obtained’ to ‘ individuals participated’ Line 106 – change amount to number Line 107 - end sentence after info in brackets. The rest is repetition. Line 109 – ‘into’ 4 groups Line 112 – ‘were based on 15 minute time intervals’ Line 116-117 – As the data was freely available in the public domain, the requirement for informed consent was not necessary. Line 119 – amended Line 122 – change to ‘pacing profile’ Line 124 – delete ‘percentage’ Line 125 – delete ‘percentage’ Line 130 – ‘the marathon for each individual athlete’ Results Line 146 – delete ‘per’ Line 148 – in men, no statistically significant differences were found… Line 150 – ‘Amongst women, we observed a large number of differences between groups which were statistically significant’ Line 153 – change men to male, and ‘the spits within which significant differences were found’. Line 157 – change practically to almost Line 161-162 – change implied to implies and ‘displayed a higher speed relative to mean overall race speed’ Table 2 – statistically significant but small effect size. Worthy of comment? Line 165 – change confirmed to displayed Line 168 – change for to ‘by’ , a to ‘the’, and beyond to ‘faster than’ Line 169 – ‘a reduction in speed below average…’ Line 173 – change corroborates to suggests Line 174 – change ‘of’ to ‘in’ Line 176 – delete second ‘per’ Line 177-8 – Tables 4 and 5 suggest that EP was the most commonly displayed pacing profile in both genders and at all levels of performance. This was followed by PP.’ Delete ‘regarding this’ Discussion Line 185 – we observed no differences in RP… Line 187 – change showed to demonstrated Line 190 – delete ‘per’ Line 196 – change of to in Line 198 – change with to from and which to where Line 199 – ‘a previous study by…’ Line 200 – ‘with EP being the most common profile amongst the best runners’. Line 201 – ‘it is important to emphasise that a different course topography can influence observed pacing behaviours’ Line 204-205 – delete ‘which involved different competition profile’ Line 205 – the womens elite group was able to maintain a RP above average until … Line 209 – delete experimented and replace with ‘ experienced a RP drop earlier in the race’ Line 211 – change develop to display Line 214 - showed ‘a similar…’ Line 217 - in ‘a’ marathon Line 218 – delete second ‘per’ Line 221 – the most common profile Line 225 – an increase in RPE Line 228-9 – Diaz et al propose to aim for EP as an optimal strategy Line 230-231 – reword this sentence please Line 233 – ‘that the majority of runners display EP..’ Line 237 – St Clair Gibson Line 241 – change developed to displayed Line 246 – delete ‘because’ Line 250 – you need to explain this statement Line 253 – is there a word missing after ‘establish’? Line 258 – assessed is probably a better word than valued here Line 270 – replace ‘on’ with ‘in’ Line 276 – If shorter splits had been used, we may have found greater variability Line 277-8 – ‘we did not consider the effect of running in a group’ Line 281 - ‘variated’? I do not know this word Line 282 – change inversely to conversely and ‘may have benefitted from a greater density of runners…’ Line 291 – ‘well-trained’ and change develop to display Line 292 – delete ‘of’ Line 293 – replace ‘points out’ with ‘indicates’ Reviewer #2: The authors have now improved the quality of the present manuscript substantially. Congratulations for the great work. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes: Arturo Casado [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. 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