Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionNovember 15, 2019 |
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PONE-D-19-31773 Urate-lowering therapy may mitigate the risk of hospitalized stroke in patients with gout PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Hwu, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. In addition to the reviewer's comments, I would like to to consider the following points: - The authors should address the differences between stroke reduction and effects on CAD and HF in more detail. In other words, why do they think that different effects were seen? Is this pure coincidence or is there some specific rational possibly responsible for this? To me, it may be an indication for significant co-founding factors that could not be taken into account, indicating the limitation of the analysis present. The authors addressed some limitation in this regard, but I would like to see some discussion about the differences mentioned above. - The authors should be much more cautious about their conclusion. This is a retrospective study, matching was limited as many factors were not available, there was other chance of bias as indicated by the authors. Together, this means that the study is not more than hypothesis generating and the authors should be clear on this. - I agree with the reviewer that the discussion could be shortened significantly despite the request for additional thoughts to be discussed. The previous findings of retrospective analyses should be summarized and less extensive information in this regard is required. - Please present the tables in a way that they can be easily read. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Apr 10 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Yen Et Al—To authors In this manuscript, the authors use a large national dataset to perform a retrospective cohort study, to examine the risks of hospitalized CAD, stroke, heart failure and all-cause mortality among urate lowering therapy users vs non-users. They find a decrease in stroke and all cause mortality in the urate lowering therapy users compared to non-users. Interestingly, they observe that stroke decreases are found in patients taking uricosurics, but mortality is decreased only in patients taking xanthine oxidase inhibitors. Overall, this is a worthwhile and well-carried out study. However, there are a number of loose ends that require consideration. 1. The authors go to great lengths to propensity-match the urate lowering therapy users vs non-users and are to be commended. However, these efforts still obscure a deeper question: why were some individuals not being prescribed urate lowering therapy for established gout? Did they have milder gout, such that they did not meet criteria for treatment (for example, under American College of Rheumatology treatment guidelines, which specify that most patients should receive urate lowering therapy if they have ≥2 gout flares/year)? If they did have milder gout, would that affect the outcomes? Or did they have lower serum urate levels, such that their physicians did not feel compelled to add a urate lowering therapy? If so, would that bias the outcomes? Is it possible their physicians were less conscientious than the physicians who did prescribed urate lowering therapy, and could the cardiovascular outcomes be a result of physician attention or inattention rather than the effect of the urate lowering drug itself? Or did the patients not receive urate lowering therapy because they themselves were less compliant with medical care, putting them at a more general risk for adverse cardiovascular outcomes? These questions need to be addressed. 2. The Discussion is way too long—it should be cut by 30-50%. However, it also is lacking certain important elements. For instance, I note that the entire discussion centers around the impact of urate, and urate-lowering, on cardiovascular disease. While this concern is appropriate, it totally misses the point that this is a study not one of asymptomatic hyperuricemics, but of gout patients who have additional issues besides hyperuricemia (e.g., intermittent inflammatory attacks). This warrants discussion. At least from a point of view of rigorous logic, the question of whether urate-lowering therapy will reduce cardiovascular events in patients with hyperuricemia without gout must remain speculative. 3. The lack of available serum urate levels is a problem that deserves more attention in the text. First of all, did the patients who received urate lowering have higher urate levels at the start than those in the not urate-lowering group? Second, were the urate-lowering drugs actually successful in lowering urate—which might have provided insight into compliance with the medications as well as their mechanism of cardiovascular effect? It is surprising that serum urate levels were not available in patients getting urate lowering therapy. 4. While not at all the fault of the investigators, the data has inconsistencies that deserve more comment. For example, how is it possible to have more all cause mortality (presumably hospitalized cardiovascular death), without also having cardiovascular death? Are there other, perhaps unanticipated causes of death that are reduced with urate lowering? 5. It is interesting that the impact of urate lowering turned out not to be a generalized phenomenon, but was specific to the drug in question. If two drugs that lower urate by different mechanisms have different and non-overlapping protective effects (i.e., uricosurics reducing stroke, and xanthine oxidase inhibitors reducing all-cause mortality), how can one conclude that both are due to the same outcome of urate lowering and not other, unrecognized, divergent effects? This deserves additional consideration. 6. The authors twice mention that no prior study has addressed the ability of urate lowering to reduce the development or progression of stroke. The recently-published FREED trial looked at urate-lowering with febuxostat versus a control group, and found an overall decrease in a composite outcome (cerebrovascular, cardiovascular and renal events and all deaths), but found no decrease with febuxostat (despite urate lowering) in cardiovascular events. This study should be noted. 7. Can the authors clarify—it looks like the patients were censored after a single defined cardiovascular event. Is this correct? So then, subsequent events in the same patient (of a similar or different type) were not counted? This deserves to be explicitly mentioned. 8. The manuscript title is a bit inaccurate, since it addresses the reduction in stroke but not all cause mortality that the authors observed. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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PONE-D-19-31773R1 Urate-lowering therapy may mitigate the risks of hospitalized stroke and mortality in persons with gout PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Hwu, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. Before we can further consider your resubmission, I would like you to a) also reply specifically to my comments in a similar way as you did for the reviewer's comments, and b) use track changes instead of highlighting the changed / added text in yellow. The reviewer asked to shorten your discussion significantly and you mention that you did. However. it is impossible to see the specific changes that you have made. So you do not only need to highlight what is added, but also what has been deleted. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by May 10 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Hans-Peter Brunner-La Rocca, M.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email us at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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PONE-D-19-31773R2 Urate-lowering therapy may mitigate the risks of hospitalized stroke and mortality in patients with gout PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Hwu, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. As you can see in the comment by the reviewer, there are remaining issues. It is important that the interpretation of data is not speculative, unless clearly stated as such or stated as hypothesis that needs further tested. In addition, I agree with the reviewer that the discussion should be shortened. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Jun 06 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Hans-Peter Brunner-La Rocca, M.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I thank the authors for their responses and resubmission. The manuscript is improved, but unfortunately I do not yet feel that the authors have fully responded to this reviewers comments. In my opinion, two specific issues remain to be addressed: 1. There continues to persist language that implies causality between ULT and benefit in the interpretation of the data. It is fine to discuss possible causality in sections where mechanisms are being speculated about, but not in sections where the meaning of the data should be interpreted rigorously. Just as one example, at the beginning of the Discussion the authors now appropriately state that “ULT in patients with gout was ASSOCIATED with lower risks of hospitalized stroke and all-cause mortality.” However, in the very next sentence they continiue to state that “A subgroup analysis revealed that uricosuric agents HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT on the decrease of hospitalized stroke, and XO inhibitors HAVE A BENEFICIAL EFFECT on survival.” This causal statement is simply not the case from the data; instead the term “association” should be applied here as it is in the first sentence. The authors need to go through the manuscript and strip any inference of causality out of the interpretation of their data; they may leave such inferences in more speculative sections where they are discussing the possible meaning of their data. 2. The discussion is still too long! It is 9 paragraphs and no reader will have patience for that. Much of the excessive content comes from the heaping up of examples that could be reduced to a summary sentence with multiple references, which would shorten the manuscript significantly. Honestly, there are very few good reasons for a discussion that focuses on the interpretation of a study to go more than 4 or 5 paragraphs. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-19-31773R3 Urate-lowering therapy may mitigate the risks of hospitalized stroke and mortality in patients with gout PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Hwu, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. I have not sent the revisions to the reviewers again as you addressed the points adequately. However, I have to remind you that there is no type editing by the journal and the text needs to be written in correct English. This is, unfortunately, not yet the case. You really need to have the text revised by an native English speaking person. In particular, the revised text contains various mistakes. E.g. where you changed to indicate an association instead of a causative effect you always write only "associated", instead of "were associated" (e.g. the abstract: "Subgroup analyses revealed that uricosuric agents significantly associated with lower risk of hospitalized stroke, and XO inhibitors significantly associated with lower risk of all-cause mortality". It should be "... uricosuric agents were significantly associated with lower risk..." etc. There are also other examples where you simply have no verb as part of the sentence. You also tend to omit articles (the, a), which is not good English. I understand that this is difficult for you, but there is no other option as this is the policy of PLOS ONE. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Jun 28 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Hans-Peter Brunner-La Rocca, M.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files to be viewed.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email us at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step. |
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Urate-lowering therapy may mitigate the risks of hospitalized stroke and mortality in patients with gout PONE-D-19-31773R4 Dear Dr. Hwu, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Hans-Peter Brunner-La Rocca, M.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-19-31773R4 Urate-lowering therapy may mitigate the risks of hospitalized stroke and mortality in patients with gout Dear Dr. Hwu: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Hans-Peter Brunner-La Rocca Academic Editor PLOS ONE |
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