Peer Review History
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PONE-D-19-30158 Impairment of visually guided associative learning in Tourette syndrome with and without ADHD PLOS ONE Dear Dr Eördegh, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please re-analyze the data incorporating the possible effects of medication into the analyzes. Please have the manuscript examined by a professional language editor. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Apr 02 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This manuscript reports on original data determining the associative learning abilities in patients with Tourette syndrome with and without ADHD. This is informative to the field, but as written, the data do not support the conclusions and the statistical analyses are lacking in part (see Major Comments 3 and 7). Some ambiguity exists in description of the patient population and the study design (see Major Comments 1, 3-7). Major Comments 1. A frequent inquiry in the literature is how behavior in Tourette syndrome differs by the presence of comorbidities, especially ADHD. Though the title indicates this as a consideration in this manuscript, ADHD is not discussed adequately as a factor in the Introduction. For example, the introduction on cognitive function does not indicate which references controlled for the presence of comorbid ADHD. Thus, the reader assumes any deficiencies listed are due to pure Tourette Syndrome, whereas some groups cited find them due to comorbid ADHD. This understanding of comorbid ADHD is expressed too late in line 80. Rather than introducing neuropsychological functions first and the impact of ADHD second, consider doing so in parallel. 2. Many of the studies cited, especially on learning disabilities and executive functions, are from work prior to 2000. Recent studies should also be considered, as these more often include consideration of comorbid ADHD. (e.g., Jeter et al., 2015; Termine et al., 2016; Openneer et al., 2019). 3. Please describe the patient sample more thoroughly. For example, the authors state patients with Tourette syndrome are usually of normal intelligence, yet those included in this cohort score a 2 (very high) on the intelligence scale used. Also, what is the average tic severity of the cohorts at the time of testing? The waxing and waning of symptoms may be an indicator of fronto-striato-cortical function, and perhaps cognitive function. Tic severity has been a considered factor in a variety of abilities in Tourette Syndrome (e.g., Burd et al., 2005; Jeter et al. 2015; Yaniv et al., 2018). Finally, what medications are the patients taking? 4. It is not clear why the many neuropsychological functions are discussed in the Introduction. How, if at all, does associative learning relate to the many other neuropsychological functions listed? The underlying physiology of the task is explained and linked to a prediction of performance on the task. If, though, associative learning is related to one or more functions, how should we anticipate patients with Tourette syndrome to perform on this task of associative learning? 5. The Methods report that 47 children with Tourette syndrome participated, yet data are presented for only 36. If data from the 11 children with Tourette syndrome and OCD are not included in this manuscript, do not mention them. If these children did complete the task, including their data in this manuscript produces a more complete understanding of associative learning in Tourette syndrome. 6. Description of the task must be clearer. Divide description of the task into multiple paragraphs. Please revise the figure to include the colored fish not associated/selected. For example, show that faces A1 and A2 are first associated with X1 (yellow fish), and that it is Y1 (green fish) that is the wrong answer. How did the participant know when to abandon the first associations (with A1, A2) and develop new (with A1)? What are the correct answers in the generalization phase? The text explains that having learned A1 and A2 are equivalent; the participant will associate A2 with X2. Show in the figure that the alternative wrong fish is Y2 (blue). 7. The authors must consider the impact of medications on patient performance. Many studies show the importance of controlling for this factor, preferably in the study design, but post hoc at a minimum. Contrary to most articles on neuropsychological functions, this study found that Tourette syndrome, not comorbid ADHD, contributed to deficits in associative learning. Yet, more patients with Tourette syndrome and ADHD were on medications (6/15=40%) than Tourette syndrome alone (3/21=14%), possibly masking the ill effects of ADHD on associative learning. Add analysis of patient performance by subtype, but only include those off medications. Discuss the findings in the Results and limitations in the Discussion. 8. If associative learning deficits truly are attributed to Tourette Syndrome, and not comorbid conditions, discuss why this may be, particularly since it is the comorbid ADHD that is responsible for deficits in other neuropsychological functions. Link this to possible physiology. Minor Comments 1. The Abstract (and Figure 1) describes the task as three main parts: acquisition, retrieval and generalization phases. Yet, the Introduction and Methods describe the task as having two parts: acquisition and test, with the latter having retrieval and generalization parts. Reconciling this language is important to conceptualizing the task. 2. The Introduction describes Tourette syndrome as frequent, but most readers will not consider 1% prevalence as frequent. 3. Please use the phrase, “patients with Tourette syndrome” rather than “Tourette Syndrome patients.” Some find the latter offensive, as it uses a disease as the descriptor of the person (i.e., the person is inseparable from the disease), rather than describing a person with a disease (i.e., the person has an identity apart from the disease). So, too, the phrase “mentally retarded” is now replaced with “intellectually disabled.” 4. The Introduction states “only in rare cases…” Please be more specific, as this can be interpreted as “the rare child” or “the rare cognitive function.” 5. The relevance of associative learning to daily life is not explained. Even simple statements about how a deficit in this domain can affect academic performance could help. 6. Insert Table 1 after the explanation of how IQ is estimated. 7. Define ADHD in Tables and captions. 8. In defining NAT, RER, ALER, and GER, designate which are numerators, denominators in these ratios. 9. On line 374, the hippocampi of patients with Tourette syndrome were larger than whose? TS+ADHD or controls? 10. References 3 and 9 are the same article. Reviewer #2: The manuscript reports the results of a study comparing the associative learning performance of children with Tourette syndrome (TS) in the absence of any comorbidity (N=21) with children with TS and ADHD (N=15), on associative learning in a variant of the Rutgers Acquired Equivalence Test (adapted for use in Hungarian children). N=36 matched controls were also tested. Children with TS comorbid with ASD or OCD (N=11) are mentioned but I can’t see that these data have been included. These could well be publishable findings but I’m struggling to follow the conclusions in the present version of the manuscript. Points to be addressed As is to be expected for this kind of work, the sample sizes are reasonable, but likely insufficient to take any differences attributable to medication into account. N=3 TS and N=6 TS+ADHD children were medicated and medication has previously been found to affect associative learning in both TS and ADHD. I’m not sure that the medication details have been provided and I can’t see that potentially confounded effects of medication have been discussed at all within the present manuscript. If the lack of difference in performance between TS and TS+ADHD groups suggests that the effects shown in Figure 2 (differences in NAT and ALER) are TS-mediated, should the same profile not also be shown in the 3rd TS group (comorbid with ASD or OCD)? The third TS group don’t seem to be shown in the figures, nor are the data considered with and without the exclusion of participants on medication? Ln 123-128 - I didn’t understand the rationale to categorise IQ scores: like age, IQ is a continuous variable and to categorise the participants’ scores into IQ ranges may result in a loss of statistical power. Please explain. It’s also not clear how we are to understand the categories which run from ‘extremely high’ through to ‘very low’ with no further definition of these categories. Ln 361-365 – I can’t see how this conclusion about the compensatory effect of ADHD follows. I thought the TS and TS+ADHD groups were not significantly different from each other? Now we’re getting a different comparison (each of the sub-groups with the controls) and the TS-ADHD group also happens to be smaller (N=15). Plus medication does not seem to have been taken into account. The writing is mostly understandable but the manuscript would benefit from further editing by a fluent English speaker, this is not really the job of the reviewer. For example, the Abstract which is most visible (and all some will read) could be better written (some specific suggestions below). Ln 21-22 - The first sentence is a little awkward. Ln22-23 – ‘the majority of the cognitive functions’ - ‘the majority of cognitive functions’ Ln 23 - ‘only little evidence’ – suggest rephrase Ln 26 – ‘The acquired equivalence learning…’ - ‘Acquired equivalence learning…’ Ln 32 – ‘the entire patient group’ – please be more specific, presumably TS+ADHD Ln 33 – ‘associations with lower effectiveness’ – please rephrase Ln 36-37 – ‘parts of the test phase’ – plural so ‘depend…’ (and sentence seems to be missing a comma after hippocampus) Minor comments and typos Ln 140 - iOS – should be defined? Ln 184 – misplaced (and uninformative) figure caption text. Ln 211-212 – Data availability statement and link will need updating. I’m not sure I see the point of providing the data for peer review only at the first revision if the data have not been provided at this point (for peer review prior to the point of being on a ‘revise and resubmit’ ticket)? Elsewhere (in the additional information boxes) it says all relevant data are within the manuscript and its Supporting Information files but I can’t see that the data has in fact been provided at this point. The Supporting Information files seem to be figures. Ln 238-248 – I think this para is the figure legend. Ln 272-277 – I think this para is the figure legend. Ln 297-302 – I think this para is the figure legend (ditto for other figures, why is the legend in the text?) Ln 579 – please make the figure caption self-explanatory rather than referring the reader back to the text. Ln 583 - are the data for TS and TS+ADHD participants in fact shown separately in Figure 2? (As implied by the figure header.) If we’re looking at all the TS data relative to matched controls why not also include TS+OCD/ASD? Ln 608 - ‘syndrom’ (typo) Ln 612 - please make the figure caption self-explanatory rather than referring the reader back to an earlier figure legend. ********** 6. 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PONE-D-19-30158R1 Impairment of visually guided associative learning in children with Tourette syndrome PLOS ONE Dear Dr Eördegh, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Jun 28 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Alexandra Kavushansky, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (if provided): Thank you for the corrections performed to the original version of the submission. Most of the issues raised by the Reviewers were addressed; there is still a question of the statistical analyses (e.g. correction for multiple comparisons, when comparing different subgroups (with/no medication, without/with different comorbidities) with their controls), making it hard to solidly base the conclusions on the obtained results. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for the substantial revisions in response to Reviewer comments. Several additional comments are below. Major Comments: 1. Does age differ significantly among subgroups? For example, is the nearly one-year age difference between the TS+ADHD and TS+OCD/ASD groups (patients or controls) significant? 2. Does tic severity differ significantly among patient subgroups? Increased tic severity can accompany comorbid conditions. 3. Does IQ differ significantly among patient subgroups? Of note, tic severity and IQ do not need to be included in Table 1, but a statement can be made that they do not differ among subgroups, if that is the case. 4. Does performance differ significantly among control subgroups? A pitfall of enrolling one control per patient (rather than the same 10-20 controls used for all subgroups) is that the control subgroups may differ among themselves. Whereas age and gender appear to match, task performance varies. Specifically, the TS+ADHD controls had a median NAT of 75, whereas the other control subgroups had median NATs of 60.5 and 60, respectively. The TS+ADHD controls had a median ALER of 0.105, whereas the other control subgroups both had median ALER scores of 0.083. This potentially significant difference among control subgroups is critical, for it could be the reason the TS+ADHD patient group does not differ from controls. This would change the interpretation of the data from ADHD not altering cognitive functions, to indeed altering visual acquisition. Minor Comments: 1. On line 193, what is meant by “involuntary…attention”? Involuntary attention is to a unattended, unexpected stimulus that reflexively draws the subject’s gaze. “Undivided attention” sounds more like voluntary (albeit undivided) attention. 2. The task description in the Methods is far more clear. Thank you. 3. On line 233, reverse the order of words to read “with and without.” 4. On line 306, please delete the word “After.” 5. In Tables 2 and 3, add an “n” in “range” for the ALER of patients with TS. 6. On line 369, what alterations are referenced? Perhaps “significant findings”? 7. In the Results, please place the data of patients with TS+ADHD before that of TS+OCD to mirror all preceding text and tables. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Cameron B. Jeter [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files to be viewed.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. 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Impairment of visually guided associative learning in children with Tourette syndrome PONE-D-19-30158R2 Dear Dr. Eördegh, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Alexandra Kavushansky, PhD Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for addressing reviewer comments; the manuscript will make a nice publication. I had not previously seen the embedded link in the manuscript PDF to your uploaded data. It is there. Thanks. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No |
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