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PONE-D-19-28202 Dominance rank but not body size influences female reproductive success in mountain gorillas PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Wright, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviews appreciated the qualty of the work but also highlighted some important concerns. I would recommend to carefully consider the comments in your revision and specifically address the reviewers concerns about the statistical approach and its justification. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Jan 16 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Please include captions for your Supporting Information files at the end of your manuscript, and update any in-text citations to match accordingly. Please see our Supporting Information guidelines for more information: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/supporting-information. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This study is one of the first to identify the relationship between dominance rank, body size, and reproductive success in a wild mammal – an important question in the context of life history evolution. The authors collected two different body size measures from 34 wild female gorillas via parallel-laser photogrammetry, a method that they have used in several other publications. They hypothesize that (1) body size and dominance rank are positively associated, and (2) larger size and/or higher rank confer reproductive benefits such as shorter inter-birth intervals and higher infant survival rates. This is an interesting and generally valid study. The authors found an association between higher rank and shorter inter-birth interval; however, they reported no association between body size and (1) dominance rank, (2) inter-birth interval, or (3) infant survival. I find the negative findings as helpful as the positive ones, and I am glad they include these three different analyses. Most of my suggestions are minor, and most simply serve to make the manuscript clearer for the reader. However, I have suggested a few more major changes that I think are necessary for publication and will greatly improve the introduction and data analysis. I think this study helps to fill in large gaps in our understanding of wild animal body size, especially in females, and its relationship to other demographic and life-history information. Thanks for providing an exciting read on an important topic. Best, Emily Levy Major: 1. Introduction/framework The introduction does a great job giving some relevant background information – which is a fair amount, as you must introduce literature on dominance rank, body size, reproductive success, and relationships between all of these factors. But, I think it would benefit from some re-organization and condensing. Currently there are a lot of paragraphs, each seeming to talk about something somewhat unique, which leaves the reader a bit strung out and confused and waiting to see how (and in what species) it will all come together. One suggestion is to move most of the text about the socioecological model to the discussion section titled ‘body size and dominance rank,’ when you discuss that female gorillas show low rates of aggression. Second, the study is framed as a test of a trade-off between adult body size and reproductive success, but such a trade-off isn’t as well-supported in the literature as the introduction makes it seem. I know of no evidence of such a trade-off in within-species studies of primates. The second paragraph discusses this trade-off, but I think most of the citations are of between-species comparative studies of primates. While these studies are helpful, patterns between species do not necessarily follow within-species (e.g., link between size & lifespan across species vs. within domestic dogs). This idea of a trade-off is presented in the introduction and discussion. While your limited amount of energy intake must be allocated to growth, reproduction, and/or maintenance, things are a little more complicated when you consider that most growth happens before reproduction (especially in this study, where you measure females that have finished growing). So, as infants/juveniles, individuals could allocate energy to skeletal growth or maintenance but not reproduction; as adults, individuals could allocate energy to muscle mass, reproduction, or maintenance. In addition, differences in early-life environmental conditions across females in your study may also affect the extent to which they experienced any trade-offs. This is further complicated by the fact that variation in female quality may mean that some females can ‘have it all’ while others are forced to make allocation decisions. Finally, many within-species studies demonstrate that individuals who are larger also have increased fitness components (Kingsolver & Pfennig 2004 is a good meta-analysis of that). So, I think the study’s framing should be shifted away from testing for a trade-off. 2. Data analysis For each gorilla, you take a mean body size and use that as the unit of analysis in the models. While this is common in the photogrammetry literature, using each photograph as the unit of analysis (and adding a random effect of individual) provides the model with within-individual variance. You could imagine a scenario in which you only have 3 photos of the two largest individuals and 10 photos of everyone else. The fewer photos you have of an individual, the smaller the probability that your mean is the true measurement of that individual. As is, your models will give equal weight to those two large individuals as everyone else. In addition, your models will not account for the fact that variance in some individual’s photos are a lot larger than in other individual’s photos. Ie, you’re more confident in the mean when SD=0.1 than when SD=1, all else being equal. I don't think you need to change the analysis for publication, but if not, you should justify your current approach. There is no reporting on whether (and to what extent) the photogrammetry data enable you to differentiate between individuals. In other words, is the ratio of intra-individual error : inter-individual variance low enough for you to detect an effect of body size in the first place? One way to ask this is to ask what proportion of the variance in your body size measures are explained by individual identity. Another is to do a power analysis showing that given your sample size and the error in your photographs, you would be able to detect an effect size XX large. At the very least, a table with error/variance and/or a scatterplot with a point for each individual and SD bars around it would help the reader visualize what the data look like. Finally, it would be beneficial to indicate whether body size differed between groups, which would explain why you centered the data for one of the analyses. Minor: On line 64, you say that “individuals should aim to find a balance among the benefits and costs of attaining optimal body size to maximize reproductive success.” I think this statement would be more accurate if written from an evolutionary perspective – it currently seems to be about individuals finding that balance, when their ability to make those decisions has (probably) been shaped by selection. On line 67, you say body mass is associated with reproductive success. The next sentence states that ‘it is not always clear which component of body mass is responsible for driving such relationships.’ It’s not clear to the reader why one over another (eg, a larger skeleton vs. more muscle mass) would matter or be interesting. On line 163 you refer the reader to your recent male body size & dominance rank manuscript for data on photogrammetry error. While that’s helpful for a general photogrammetry overview, I think you should still include the error associated with the images used in the current study (ie, within-individual %CV; see ‘major’ comment above). On line 189, you don’t specify if the time period for the mean number of dominance interactions per female. (e.g., 16 years? 1 year?) Why did you switch between GLMMs and LMMs between the 1st and 2nd set of models? They seem extremely similar in construct, and glmmTMB allows several different inputs for data distributions. A brief explanation for the change would help. On line 258 and 266, please provide citations when discussing dispersion and stability – I’m not familiar with what an ‘allowed’ cutoff is, and readers might not be either. Your first model (rank ~ back breadth + body length) doesn’t include age – perhaps a citation that rank isn’t associated with age in female gorillas (or an additional model or correlation?) would justify this, as it’s common for dominance rank to change with age across both sexes of many species. Your description of the model results were extremely clear, and I especially appreciated that you explained the ‘effect size’ of your model coefficients. One question: On line 280, I’m confused as to why you didn’t give a separate X2 and p-value for each body size measurement individually by removing one, running log likelihood, adding it back and removing the other. On line 354, you state that back breadth %CV was ‘considerably smaller’ in females than males. However, %CV of length is larger in females than males, though the male-female difference is smaller for length than breadth. If you’re going to focus on breadth, I think you need to (1) acknowledge the length difference, and (2) run stats to show whether/that breadth %CV is appreciably larger. Also – is this the %CV reported here the average of each female’s %CV? In line 379-380 it sounds like there’s “little support” high rank being associated with better energy condition – does this mean there’s no support, or there’s enough to tell us about? I think fleshing this out more will be helpful, especially because you discuss the findings from Bwindi. From line 381 to the rest of the paragraph, the two ideas brought up (rank*offspring sex and future studies of IBI phases) seem like non-sequiturs after the longer discussion of rank & resource access. In lines 416 and 418, it would be helpful to list the species in the studies you cite. Lines 426 – 432, which are the start of the conclusion, would work better as a separate paragraph in the discussion. The focus of the study (in the intro) was not sexual dimorphism in gorillas. Reviewer #2: This interesting manuscript seeks to understand if the unexpected relationships between dominance and different measures of female reproductive success found in previous studies from multiple mountain gorilla populations could be linked to a correlation between body size and dominance rank. Body size is normally strongly correlated to dominance rank in multiple mammalian species, granting priority access to resources that can in turn be used for increased allocation to body growth, maintenance, and to reproduction. However, this works shows that there seems to be no correlation between linear body size measures and dominance as well as with multiple indexes of reproductive success in mountain gorilla females. Although no effect was found, I think this study could be an interesting contribution to our knowledge on the determinants of dominance among females in sexually dimorphic species living in certain ecological and social conditions. I do have, however, some concerns about how the analyses were carried out and the absence of important statistical/methodological details is something that should be addressed (see below). If something is not clear or if I can be of further help please feel free to contact me (email: luca.montana@usherbrooke.ca). Best wishes, Luca Montana Major comments 1. I understand the limitations imposed by the limited sample size on the way that statistical analyses were carried out, but I do think that it would be better if the ms compared biologically meaningful models, instead of presenting three univariate models and a full model. If multiple biologically meaningful hypotheses were translated into statisticasl models, they could be tested to understand which parameters affect female reproductive success, for example: dominance, body size, a combination of both, and possibly controlling for different parameters such as infant sex, parity etc. If this was done in model selection framework, the AIC estimated by the model selection would penalize overparametrized ones and should help understand which one is the best of the proposed models. 2. Related to the my comment above, this specifically applies to both inter-birth interval and infant survival predictions: a. Why are back breadth and body length not joined in the same ‘body size’ model? Since both measures describe linear body size, I’m not sure I understand why they are not included in one multivariate model testing if body size has an effect on dominance, inter-birth interval duration, or infant survival. Using the rule of thumb described in Dormann et al. (2013) two variables correlated by rs < 0.7 can be used in the same model. b. I think it would be interesting to compare the effects of dominance rank on inter-birth interval duration of the univariate model vs the full model. Although the full model is not significantly different from the null model, dominance is significant in both models. If the effect of dominance is different between the two models, this could mean that other parameters influence the effect of dominance on reproductive success and thus the univariate model it’s not the best way to make predictions. 3. I think the ms would benefit from more information about the choice of the models used to test the interesting hypotheses presented here. I specifically pointed out some examples in my minor comments Minor comments 4. L. 67-68. This is really petty and I apologize to pointing it out, but the sentence says that body mass is positively correlated with female reproductive success in mammal, but then a study on both birds and mammals is cited. I did not go through the cited paper (Ronget et al. 2018), but is the correlation showed just on mammal or on both birds and mammals? 5. L. 73. I think something is either missing or the article ‘a’ should be removed from the sentence. 6. Ll 107-109. In its current state, the sentence argues that body size is correlated with female dominance only in social species. Wouldn’t that be the case also for group-living but not strictly-social species? 7. Ll 120-122. I admit I was surprised by the fact that gorillas had one of the highest degree of male biased ssd in mammal. I thought other mammalian species showed higher degrees than that (not true: Jarman (1983)), but I found out that many times it’s not the average that is reported (e.g. Rioux-Paquette et al. (2015): males can weight up to 4 times as much as the smallest breeding female). Today I learned multiple new things! 8. Ll. 126-129. In my opinion, this is a critical part of the introduction but I find it sometimes confusing. May I suggest to spend some more words to better introduce the correlation between dominance and priority of access to some food resources etc? Also, I might be wrong, but I think that it was Wright et al. (2014) that described the decreased travelling time? So reference 64 instead of 61. 9. Ll. 164-168. At first I started looking for the sample size here, and I realized only later that N changed depending on the analyses. Maybe it could be a good idea to specify it here? Also, related to N, since repeated measurements of the same individuals are present, I think it could be a good idea to specify both the total number of measurement and the number of females measured. 10. Ll. 171-189. I really appreciate the details on how dominance was estimated. Good job! However, related to the next comment and to comment n. 3, only by looking at Figure 2 I understood that ranking was treated as a continuous variables that ranges from 0 to 1. I think it would be appropriate to specify how this was done, because by looking at Figure 1 Elo-rating values range between -300 and about 1350. Also, was dominance rank standardized or scaled between 0 and 1? It’s not clear to me how the values I just mentioned could be standardized between 0 and 1. 11. L. 218. I did not understand how a beta distribution could be used to test if back breadth and body length were correlated with dominance rank until I saw that dominance ranks were a continuous variable ranging between 0 and 1. 12. Ll. 222-223. I think a small sentence explaining why the random slopes of back breadth and body length were used within group ID (which I think means ‘back breadth | group ID’ and ‘body length | group ID’). I can see why the effect of body measurements could change depending on the group, but I think readers could benefit from a short sentence on why these random slopes were used. 13. L. 227. Not sure about the following reference: van de Pol and Wright (2009). I think it could mislead people looking for papers using subject centering. I think the explanation in ll. 223-227 is really clear and I agree that this was the best way to see if morphological measures had an effect on dominance rank based on relative differences between females within the same group. 14. Ll. 239-240. Since I’m not working with a species that forms stable groups it took me a while to understand the “…the mother transferred in between the birth of two infants…” meant that females could move to different groups between giving births. I think it could benefit the readers to add a sentence when talking about the natural history on the species. 15. Ll. 247-250. I’m no expert of Cox proportional hazardous models, but aren’t they used to make prediction when using censored data? I do not understand if censored data are present (related to comment n. 3), and if not why Cox regression were the model of choice. Instead of a Cox regression, wouldn’t a binomial glmm have been enough to estimate the probability that a young reached weaning age? 16. Ll. 270-271. Given what is stated in ll 223-227 (centering of back breadth and body length among females within each group to a mean of zero), I assume that these two measurements were z-transformed too, am I right? This would mean that back breadth and body length were z-transformed differently depending on the hypothesis that was being tested. If this is the case, I think it could help readers if something was said about this matter either here or at ll 223-227. 17. Lines 320-323. Given the controversial results on different populations of the same species I think here there are lots of assumptions that are used to say that rank may influence body condition (or the other way around?), which may be in turn a stronger correlate of reproductive success than linear body size. The only way to test this would be through structural equation modelling (Shipley 2002). Similar comments below. 18. Ll. 329-332. There are lots of contradictory studies on the correlation dominance rank-body size in females (Clutton-Brock and Huchard 2013). It appears to me that body size was shown to correlate with dominance rank for females in group-living species that are not social like gorillas, like the examples reported here. As specified along the text, age and tenure are strong determinants of dominance in a species were groups are stable over multiple years. It’s just a curiosity, but do you know if there are examples of social species were female body size is associated with dominance and reproductive success? 19. Ll. 339-341. Here it is assumed that fighting abilities are correlated with body size, but aggressiveness could play an important role too maybe? 20. Ll. 377.379. Given the controversial results of other studies on the relationship between dominance rank and priority access to food resources I think some caution should be taken here. 21. Ll. 388-393. I think this is a very good idea and I agree that it should be explored once the data will be available. 22. Ll. 395-399. Same as above, only structural equation modelling (as far as I know) would allow to understand if inter-birth interval duration is indirectly influenced by energetic condition via dominance rank. 23. L. 416. Or couldn’t be the other way around too? 24. L. 427. I can see how bigger females could defend their kid from a potential predator or providing better food if they have access to better food patches, but can they really avoid infanticide? In l 214 is specified that “… neither female dominance rank or body size would likely prevent [infanticide]”. 25. Ll. 441-444. I’m not sure how body size could be correlated with longevity in gorillas. If I understood well, high-ranking females live longer than lower-ranking ones and thus have better lifetime reproductive success (Robbins et al. 2011), but no correlation between body size and dominance was found here. 26. Ll 447-449. I really appreciate the last sentence about the difficulty on the collection of data in the wild. Multiple researchers seems to fail to see that data are difficult to collect and it takes a very long time when studying long-lived species. 27. Figure 1. Personally, I do not think this figure is necessary, but I also have nothing against it. As I understand, the main message from this figure would be that female dominance in basically all groups (but ISA group) is stable over long periods of time. 28. Table 1. I have rarely seen a table cited only in the discussion, but I understand it helps developing the argument made in that section. However, since some of those results are new and belong to this study, I think they should be mentioned before in the results section. 29. Supplementary. This might be the answer to my point 2.b, but I’m not sure. “Higher-ranking females had significantly shorter inter-birth intervals than lower-ranking ones. Both back breadth and body length did not significantly influence inter-birth interval duration (Table S1). These results are similar to those found using univariate analyses presented in the text”. Does this mean that the effect of dominance rank is the in both full and univariate model? References Clutton-Brock TH, Huchard E. 2013. 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PONE-D-19-28202R1 Dominance rank but not body size influences female reproductive success in mountain gorillas PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Wright, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Both reviewers and myself found that you dealt adequately with the previous comments and resubmit a stronger version of the manuscript. However, both reviewers have some minor suggestions to further improve the clarity of the manuscript. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Apr 12 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank you for your thoughtful editing of this manuscript. I have a few smaller comments remaining. I think all major issues have been addressed. Abstract: The sentence on lines 22-26 is very long and the ideas aren’t connected in a way that’s easy to understand. Creating two sentences and clarifying would do the trick. I think you’re saying that (1) Previous studies saw a relationship between rank and reproduction, (2) that’s surprising because their hierarchy is relatively weak, (3) maybe hierarchy is weak because feeding competition is weak, (4) maybe rank is associated with body size because...[of the association between rank and reproduction?] Line 31: You say ‘no support for body size influencing…’ but I don’t think you can assume causation. The word ‘influence’ is used in line 34 as well. Introduction: The first four paragraphs don’t connect or ‘flow’ together well, so it is challenging to read. Perhaps the first sentence of each paragraphs 2-4 should include a transition from the previous paragraph’s topic to the current paragraph’s topic to help the reader. Line 66-67: Thanks for shifting this sentence around. One more suggestion is that ‘optimal’ isn’t necessarily right. Not only is selection acting on the whole organism (not just body size), but selection isn’t an optimizing process. Line 121-122: If you shift the parenthetical to the end of the sentence it will be easier to read. Line 124: It’s not yet clear why the authors thought the rank-reproduction association might be attributable to a rank-body size association – spelling it out clearly will help lead the reader to your present study Line 134: You already know that rank is associated with these reproductive measures in this population, right? If so, perhaps include that as a citation and explain why you’re testing it again. Results: Line 283: It’s helpful for the reader to briefly give the formula for %CV for those unfamiliar with it. Thanks for adding in the CVs for each individual (Table S1). I didn’t see that table directly referenced in the text; perhaps it could be referenced in the caption for Table 1 (and sorry if I missed it elsewhere). Line 317: Given your confidence interval for back breadth, I don’t think it’s helpful to mention this last sentence. Discussion: Line 385: There’s an extra comma after “Even though” Line 418: Specify whether the rank-reproduction relationship in chimpanzees is in females specifically. Reviewer #2: I would like to praise the authors for their constructive responses and for the changes they have made following the comments from both revisions. Although I am normally more in favor of an information-theoretic approach, data do not always justify or allow its use. Since it was repeated multiple times in the authors’ response to reviewers that the sample size had low power, I run a couple of power analyses myself to test what was the power given by the available dataset and different R2 values. I thus agree that the statistical approach used here is valid and justified by the nature and amount of available data. I appreciate the improved clarity on the choice of univariate vs multivariate models. I highlight here a few possible minor changes, but I otherwise think this article is a sound and fascinating work that will be received with interested by the ecological community. Best wishes, Luca Montana Minor comments 1. Ll 66-67. I would suggest to use the present tense, so “[…] selection shapes individuals to be an optimal size to maximize reproductive success”. In its present form, it seems like individuals already attained the perfect size to maximise their fitness. If that was the case, the variance on a trait such as body size would be greatly reduced. 2. Ll. 230-232. I think it would be helpful to disclose the link function of the beta model used to test the first hypothesis. I assume it was a logit function? 3. Ll 275-276. Should this paragraph be included in a specific section like Ethical statement or something like it? 4. Ll 329-330. Is there any reference that would support this assumption? Probably Grueter et al. (2016), Wright and Robbins (2014) or one among the references cited in l 379? This is merely because if somebody jumps directly to the discussion the absence of references could suggest a lack of knowledge to sustain this, although logical, assumption. 5. Ll 384-388. I wonder if the comma after ‘even though’ in the following sentence is appropriate “Even though, higher-ranking females had greater access to some food resources over lower-ranking ones, dominance rank did not significantly predict energy intake rate or levels of urinary C-peptide, a common proxy for energy balance”. I am not totally sure since I’m not a native english speaker, 6. Ll. 435-441. I wonder if this last paragraph is relevant to the discussion. Sexual size dimorphism is only briefly cited in the introduction, and given that selection on body size was not formally tested here I would suggest to remove it entirely. 7. Supplementary material. I think that the appropriate reference for this sentence between parentheses “keeping in mind the risk of multiple testing” was actually 2 (Forstmeier and Schielzeth 2011) and not 1 (Wright et al. 2019). References Forstmeier W, Schielzeth H. 2011. Cryptic multiple hypotheses testing in linear models: Overestimated effect sizes and the winner’s curse. Behav Ecol Sociobiol 65:47–55. doi:10.1007/s00265-010-1038-5. Grueter CC, Robbins AM, Abavandimwe D, Vecellio V, Ndagijimana F, Ortmann S, Stoinski TS, Robbins MM. 2016. Causes, mechanisms, and consequences of contest competition among female mountain gorillas in Rwanda. Behav Ecol 27:766–776. doi:10.1093/beheco/arv212. Wright E, Galbany J, McFarlin SC, Ndayishimiye E, Stoinski TS, Robbins MM. 2019. Male body size, dominance rank and strategic use of aggression in a group-living mammal. Anim Behav 151:87–102. doi:10.1016/j.anbehav.2019.03.011. Wright E, Robbins MM. 2014. Proximate mechanisms of contest competition among female Bwindi mountain gorillas (Gorilla beringei beringei). Behav Ecol Sociobiol 68:1785–1797. doi:10.1007/s00265-014-1788-6. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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