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PONE-D-19-19916 Characterizing changes in soil microbiome abundance and diversity due to different cover crop techniques PLOS ONE Dear Dr Fankhauser, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Dec 22 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Dear Editor, the paper “Characterizing changes in soil microbiome abundance and diversity due to differentcover crop techniques” is a study of the microbial composition of soils treated with single and multi-mix covercropping throughout a one year activity in organic agriculture regimen. The article structure is sound, being organized around the hypothesis that multi-mix cover crop has an advantage on simpler cover crop choices. The statistics and the microbial methodology are correct. There are some major and minor points to improve, as listed below. Major points 1. I have some doubts on the meaning and effect of these tiny experimental plots and if (even in the center of each plot) the border effect can cause problems of any type. In any case a discussion on this point seems necessary as well as the position of the sampling within the plot 2. The OUTs are described only by stating that the standard QIME setting was used. In my experience, sometimes, QIME is indeed set up to define ASV rather than OTUs. The great number of OTUs makes me think that indeed they could be ASV groups. In any case, for clarity sake, the authors should state what was the similarity threshold chosen. 3. As an addition, I would also encourage the authors to briefly describe the variability within the OTUs in order to understand whether they are largely clonal or real OTUs with a species like structure. 4. The authors claim that the changes of the mixes are induced by variations in the rhizosphere, which is quite likely. Now the point is why did not the authors sample the soil among the roots separately from the rest if they wanted to propose and support this hypothesis? Is there any other indirect evidence in favor of this very likely hypothesis, beyond the likelihood itself? 5. The authors state at the beginning that this is one of the few papers on the one-year effect of cover cropping but fail to draw any conclusion about it in the course of the paper. For instance, the relative insensitivity or carbon content to the treatments, can be an effect of the short experimental time? 6. In general the paper should be a bit more condensed to ease its reading. The discussion is partly an enlargement of the result section, rather than a real discussion. Minor points 1. Line 165- it is unclear how can the authors sample 500 ul, i.e half cubic centimeter, from a sampling cylinder with a 16 mm diameter and 100 mm depth. I would conclude that it is 64*pi *100 = 20.096 cubic millimeters i.e. ca 20 mL. In any case the author are encouraged to use Standard measures and therefore mm for lengths an mL or uL (no ul ) for volumes. 2. Line 199 – Fragment Analyzer. Is it the Agilent tool? If so state it, please, along with the experimental settings. 3. Lines 208-209 – rephrase: it is hard to understand 4. Line 218 – is it CRAN R anosim function? If so state it and acknowledge it with a proper citation. Moreover state its settings. 5. ANOVA and KW were carried out with or what? 6. Table 1, please separate thousands with the standard “,” in order to make the figures more readable. 7. Line 564 – sentence without the verb, apparently. 8. Iconography taxonomic names not in italic. Reviewer #2: Review 1. I don't believe the authors have submitted raw sequencing data to a public repository, such as NCBI SRA. While it might not be a strict requirement, doing so greatly improves the reproducibility of the study and enables other researchers to improve on the analyses carried out by the authors. 2. (Lines 162-163) The authors should explain, why there is only one replicate per subplot for the first time-point. Considering that the authors have used ANOVA and ANOSIM, both of which are quite sensitive to sample imbalances, the authors should emphasise this issue. 3. (Lines 210-213) OTU picking is an extremely noisy process that is extremely prone to overestimating absolute diversity (i.e. the number of observed OTUs) [1,2,3,4]. Moreover, UCLUST is one of the least accurate heuristic sequence clustering algorithms [3]. The authors must apply denoising to reconstruct exact amplicon sequence variations using DADA2 [4] or Deblur. 4. (Line 218) ANOSIM operates on dissimilarity matrices: the authors must specify the (dis)similarity functions they've used to generate these matrices. 5. (Lines 219-221, 229) ANOVA, Kruskal-Wallis and t-test cannot be applied to raw compositional data, such as sequencing data and chemical compositions [5,6]: the authors must carry out statistical analyses designed for compositional data. 6. (Lines 271, 283-285) Absolute diversity analysis is neither reliable (due to aforementioned issues with OTU picking), not subcompositionally coherent. The same critique applies to Chao and Shannon indices. If the authors do want to conduct alpha-diversity analysis, they can use the Aitchison's norm. Otherwise, alpha-diversity analyses must be removed. References: 1. Edgar, R. (2017). Accuracy of microbial community diversity estimated by closed- and open-reference OTUs PeerJ 5(), e3889. https://dx.doi.org/10.7717/peerj.3889 2. Edgar, R. (2018). Updating the 97% identity threshold for 16S ribosomal RNA OTUs Bioinformatics 34(14), 2371-2375. https://dx.doi.org/10.1093/bioinformatics/bty113 3. Chen, W., Zhang, C., Cheng, Y., Zhang, S., Zhao, H. (2013). A Comparison of Methods for Clustering 16S rRNA Sequences into OTUs PLoS ONE 8(8), e70837. https://dx.doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0070837 4. Callahan, B., McMurdie, P., Rosen, M., Han, A., Johnson, A., Holmes, S. (2016). DADA2: High-resolution sample inference from Illumina amplicon data Nature Methods 13(7)https://dx.doi.org/10.1038/nmeth.3869 5. Gloor, G., Macklaim, J., Pawlowsky-Glahn, V., Egozcue, J. (2017). Microbiome Datasets Are Compositional: And This Is Not Optional Frontiers in Microbiology 8(), 2224. https://dx.doi.org/10.3389/fmicb.2017.02224 6. Quinn, T., Erb, I., Richardson, M., Crowley, T. (2018). Understanding sequencing data as compositions: an outlook and review Bioinformatics 34(16), 2870-2878. https://dx.doi.org/10.1093/bioinformatics/bty175 ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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PONE-D-19-19916R1 Characterizing changes in soil microbiome abundance and diversity due to different cover crop techniques PLOS ONE Dear Dr Fankhauser, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Feb 28 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors amended quite well their paper and gave exhaustive and satisfactory answers to the question posed. Reviewer #2: 1. We appreciate this reviewer’s dedication to open access data. We are currently working on uploading the numerous FASTA files to SRA. Thank you very much for this decision. I am looking forward to seeing your data uploaded to SRA. 2. We have clarified this reasoning in the methods section. Ultimately, we chose 9 samples (one for each subplot) at the first timepoint since this was prior to any soil manipulation and thus we did not believe that more samples were necessary or cost effective. I believe, you refer to the following sentence (lines 159-161): "There was only 1 sample per subplot taken at time point 1 since the soil had just been evenly tilled across each subplot and no further manipulation had been undertaken; thus the extra replicates of the plots were deemed unnecessary". Even if that's the case, you should have considered the effect sample imbalance has on statistical methods you've chosen. ANOSIM, in particular, is extremely sensitive to sample size imbalance and heteroscedasticity (that accompanies sample imbalances) [1]. If you are going to keep ANOSIM in your analysis, you should leave an appropriate warning about sample imbalances. 3. The reviewer is right to be concerned about this noise in the OTU-picking process. While the ESV approach is much more stringent and uses only identical and unique 16S sequences in the downstream analysis, it has been shown to lead to 1) losing significant portion of the sequencing data due to its significance to data quality, 2) too much diversity, and hides/conceals the divergence in rRNA operons. This topic is discussed in details here (http://fiererlab.org/2017/05/02/lumping-versus-splitting-is-it- time-for-microbial-ecologists-to-abandon-otus/). We did a comparison between DADA2 (ESV) and QIIME(OTU) on a portion of our data. Our goal was to assess if using either of the two methods leads to the identification of more/less/different phyla, given that our key results are at the phyla level. Our results (multiple tables and figures) can be found in the uploaded response letter. These data demonstrate that both approaches identify the same types and numbers of the top abundant phyla. Thus, we believe that the use of QIIME is appropriate for our data. We would be happy to include any of this as supplemental information, as deemed appropriate by the editor. I have given multiple peer-reviewed references showing how bad OTU-picking, (and UCLUST-based OTU-picking in particular) is at recovering microbial diversity from amplicon sequences. Considering that you are working with the total number of OTUs in your analysis, the fact that OTU-picking has been shown to dramatically (from 10^1 to 10^3 times) inflate this number is absolutely damning, even if the procedure produces adequate composition at the level of phyla. With all due respect, a single unreviewed blog-post is not a valid source of evidence. Moreover, the very people behind QIIME's original preprocessing pipeline implore their users to abandon it in favour of denoising: "... This process, also known as OTU picking, was once a common procedure, used to simultaneously dereplicate but also perform a sort of quick-and-dirty denoising procedure (to capture stochastic sequencing and PCR errors, which should be rare and similar to more abundant centroid sequences). Use denoising methods instead if you can. Times have changed. Welcome to the future" [ https://docs.qiime2.org/2019.10/tutorials/overview/ ]. 4. ANOSIM operates on dissimilarity matrices: the authors must specify the (dis)similarity functions they've used to generate these matrices. Bray-Curtis is not subcompositionally coherent – you should add an appropriate warning. You might consider adding another ANOSIM assay based on Aitchison distances. 5. We appreciate this critique and the references provided. We would like to refer the reviewer to the following two resources... In addition, these methods are applied on normalized count matrix, which is the same as RNAseq and microarray data at this point. These statistical methods are routinely used for significance analysis between groups, and as such we believe that this is the appropriate statistical approaches for our dataset. I am not sure you have paid due attention to my references, but I will return to them later. As for the references you have provided, the second one is a link to QIIME1 documentation. Since QIIME1 is a woefully outdated piece of software that has been discouraged by its own authors, its documentation doesn't look like a valid reference to rely on. That leaves the first reference, i.e. "Hypothesis testing and statistical analysis of microbiome" by Xia and Sun. First of all, this paper is a review of methods that have been used in microbiome research regardless of statistical correctness. Second of all, the very paper contains the following sentences: "First, the existing statistical methods for analyzing microbiome proportional data do not solve constraint problem, and some researchers even do not know it exists. Most standard statistical methods, such as the Pearson correlation coefficient, t-test, ANOVA are still widely used or exist in current literature on the analysis of microbiome data[23, 24, 25, 26] without testing the data distribution and transformation. One assumption of standard statistical methods is that the compared data are independent. Since the sum of the relative abundances is unity, it indicates the data are not independent with the unity or any constant constrain. Thus it is not appropriate to directly use these methods for analyzing microbiome relative abundance data". In other words, your own reference reinforces my line of criticism. The fact that you are using a "normalized count matrix, which is the same as RNAseq" changes nothing, because no normalisation procedure can remove the total-sum-constraint problem (it can only change the total sum). Furthermore, RNAseq methods operate under strong assumptions (i.e. there must be many transcripts, but few of them can vary across states) that simply do not apply to microbiome data (whether these assumptions hold in RNAseq studies is a separate issue). Even ALDEx2 is not ideal for microbiome research, because it simply applies the CLR transform (which is similar to the normalisation procedure from DESeq2) and operates under the same assumptions as other RNAseq packages. This is, of course, covered in depth in the references I have given in the previous response. Here I would like to reiterate a line from my previous response: the authors must carry out statistical analyses designed for compositional data. 6. We made a quick comparison between Rarefaction and Aithchison normalization. It is a norm, not a normalisation procedure. How have you treated zeros? References 1. Marti Anderson and Daniel Walsh: PERMANOVA, ANOSIM, and the Mantel test in the face of heterogeneous dispersions: What null hypothesis are you testing? – Ecological Monographs, Vol. 83, No. 4 (November 2013), pp. 557-574. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. 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