Peer Review History
Original SubmissionNovember 1, 2019 |
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PONE-D-19-30473 Auditory chain reaction: effects of sound pressure and particle motion on auditory structures in fishes PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Schulz-Mirbach, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please see the reviewers' comments and my detailed summary of these comments below. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Feb 27 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Both reviewers commented on the rather high sound levels used in the experiments and I do agree with them that are are of little direct "ecological" relevance as such but do recognize they may have been needed to accurately measure the fine-scale movements in the current paper. A short note in the manuscript stating this and arguing as to whether or not there would be a linear damping of the movements with a decrease in sound levels would be helpful to rebut any criticisms in this regard. The reviewers also note that the discussion is overly long so effort should be made to reduce length here to increase readability. In particular I find you take too much space pointing out all the limitations to your study (MS pages 15 & 16) and this could be greatly reduced to maybe even one paragraph and perhaps moved to later in the discussion section. Other parts of the discussion could also be profitably condensed. Reviewer 2 also notes that the large number of figures further reduced readability so consider whether any of those could also be removed. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? 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Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Review of Schulz-Mirbach et al. manuscript titled “Auditory chain reaction: effects of sound pressure and particle motion on auditory structures in fishes”. The manuscript is a very well written paper that investigates sound-induced motion of the otoliths within the fish inner ear end organs from two fish that have different otophysic connections of the swim bladder to the inner ear. This paper is a follow up study to their previous work but in the current paper the authors a standing wave tube-like tank to examine the motion of the inner ear otoliths under conditions where there is maximum particle motion vs maximum sound pressure. The authors provide the first experimental evidence of how the two different types of otophysic connections affect otolith motion in the fish inner ear. The subject of the paper should be of general interest to the readers of Plos One. I have only a few comments below. 1) The stimulus used to induce motion of the otoliths within the end organs was quite high ranging from 141 to >177 dB re 1 microPa. The authors reported (in the methods lines 206-207) that “step (at ID19) equals a SPL of 177.2 dB re 1 microPa when shakers were in phase and a SPL of 155.4 re 1 microPa when shakers were driven out of phase”. These sound levels seem to be out of the biologically relevant ranges. I realize that these levels were likely required in order to visualize the induced motion of the otoliths. My concern is that the induce motion and how it may activate motion of the inner ear may not be biologically relevant to natural auditory stimuli experienced by these fish in nature. To alleviate such concerns, the authors should at least address this issue and explain the limitations (I know they have to some degree in the discussion) of how more natural sound levels might induce similar motions at lower levels. 2) An interesting note on line 399-401 that states that the left and right Weberian ossicles revealed differences in the amount of displacement when subjected to sound induced motion. The authors also describe the differential motion of the otoliths based on experimental condition. Are the authors suggesting that the Weberian apparatus might afford directional sensitivity to the sound source? This would be extremely interesting if true. Also, their description of the sound induced movement of the otoliths in the Canara pearlspot cichlid may have implications for how the inner ear uses the particle motion and indirect sound pressure cues to determine sound source direction via the phase model hypothesis. 3) The authors also describe other interesting results of the “tilting motion” of the sagitta in E. canarensis. Was there any evidence for the so-called “rocking motion” of otoliths under their experimental conditions as described by Krysl et al (2012) in PloSOne. 4) Surprisingly the authors do not discuss the induced movement of the asteriscus in E. canarenis given the close proximity of the lagena to the swim bladder in the cichlid. Although sound induce movement was minimal at the experimental sound levels used, movement of this otolith could be very important in terms of the indirect detection of particle motion from the swim bladder. Fay reported that fish can detect particle motion displacement as low as 1 nm. Thus, the authors should not discount the importance the lagena and saccule given their close proximity to the swim bladder. Reviewer #2: The study using a new apparatus to image the auditory portions of the inner ear during both sound pressure and particle motion. The design is clever and is novel in that it could image this structures during stimulation. The authors do a good job of indicating potential limitations with their procedures. The study makes a very nice overall contribution to the field. A couple of items that need to be clarified or considered. The fish are dead and tissue structure can break down very quickly, especially if high intensity lighting was needed and it generated heat. It would have been useful if there was postmortem examination to determine if there were any structure changes that could not be detected by imaging. For example, what was the effect of blood clotting? The SPL were very high and not normally used in fish auditory studies. Was this due to the limitations in the imaging? I would expect to see large scale movements at these SPL that fish may never experience. How did this impact the studies and models? I presume the test chamber is designed to get around the problems associated with auditory studies in small tanks. Can physiological studies eventually be done in these types of tanks? I felt the discussion is far too speculative. The authors have a very nice data set and do not need to explain every variance that may be impacting the structure. I would suggest that the discussion focuses on what can definitely be determined and limit the number of speculative discussion. I realize this is an on line journal and page limits are not a concern, however 18 figures seem a little excessive and it is hard for the reader to wade through and determine which ones are really need. I would suggest that several figures could be moved to supplemental files. Minor Abstract The use of the term maximum even in quotations is confusing. 29 “inner” ears. Many times the authors use the term ear, when inner ear would be more accurate 40 I think it is safe to say they are no longer “assumed” 45-46. Sentences end and start with same words What is an improved hearing ability. This is usually termed increased sensitivity or greater frequency range 51 … whole body in motion: It is unclear the effect of hard skeletal elements. Also, the motion is oscillolatory with no net movement gain and therefore motion is not best word? Vibration? 78 The pearlspot is not considered as well investigated as the goldfish 95 The saccule has plays a very important vestibular function and therefore does not “mainly” function in audition 113 The cessation of opercular movement is not considered an endpoint of euthanasia. Many fish (including goldfish) can be easily revived after the cessation of opercular movement. There should have been an additional period following the cessation of movement to insure complete euthanasia Methods The image rate of 200 Hz for the 200 Hz seems relatively slow. Most video is run higher than stimulus. Please explain if this had an effect on resolving the movements 633 add reference Table 1: delete, add info to text ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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