Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionSeptember 26, 2019 |
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PONE-D-19-26292 The role of learning and environmental geometry in landmark-based spatial navigation of fish (Xenotoca eiseni) PLOS ONE Ciao Valeria, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. While the reviews were generally supportive, Reviewers 1 and 3 highlighted some weaknesses in the clarity of the narrative and other weaknesses that need to be addressed in a revision. In revising your manuscript, please pay careful attention to the suggestions and criticisms of all three reviewers. I may send out your revised manuscript for re-review by Reviewers 1 and 3. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript within the next 3 months. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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(Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In the manuscript “The role of learning and environmental geometry in landmark-based spatial navigation of fish (Xenotoca eiseni)” by Sovrano et al., the authors set out to analyze the use of spatial landmarks to navigate by fish in four experiments. These four experiments evaluated spontaneous navigation by geometry and landmarks (Exp 1), spontaneous navigation by landmarks (Exp 2), the use of local landmarks under a reference memory procedure (Exp 3) and the use of a conspicuous landmark under a reference memory procedure. In Exp 1, authors observed that, under a working memory procedure, in a rectangular apparatus with four panels at corners, fish seemed to use available landmarks for reorientation. In Exp 2, the authors reported that, under a working memory procedure, in a square apparatus with four panels at corners, fish did not use landmarks for reorientation. In Exp 3 and 4, fish trained under a reference memory procedure in a square apparatus, used either results showed that, under a reference memory procedure, in a square apparatus could use either, four panels at corners or a Wall with different color to locate the goal. Although there are several interesting results throughout this manuscript, as a whole, it is a series of diffusely related findings that don't flow from one experiment to another. There is not really a coherent story here. It is unclear how the various studies relate to a central driving question beyond "what cues could use these fish to reorient ". Also, it is not clear whats is the contribution of this ms to the fairly amount of literatura about the use of geometry vs landmark cues. Other comment The methodology is sometimes confusing; some examples are: 1. They don´t explain why the use different number of subject in each experiment (12, 16, 12 and 8) 2. The absence of probe test don´t exclude the possibility that fish could be using non-spatial cues to solve the tasks. For instance, the use of feromones (the height of the water was the same that the height of the glass jars), cues related to the different exits (water flow, subtle differences in the doors/tunnels,…). 3. In Experiment 3 and 4, the fish could be using extramazes cues, for instance the geometry of the larger rectangular tank or a gradient of flow/chemical concentration. 4. The panels are 10cm wide but they comprised 11 stripes of 1cm. The same for the horizontal stripes (17 stripes of 1 cm in a panel of 16 cm) 5. Line 215 “At the four corners of the transparent arena”. 6. The “disorientation procedure” is not well explained. Do fish stay in the same water all the time? Do fish get stressed by this procedure? 7. The materials and “construction” used in the apparatus of Exp1 and Exp2 are very different and these differences could explain the differences in the result. In the discussion they focused on the link between hippocampus and orientation based on environmental geometry and they use the available data from rodents but they did not discuss their own results with available bibliography on fish about the neural basis of the spatial navigation based on geometric cues Reviewer #2: The article addresses reorientation behavior in fish. Specifically it examines the degree to which fish rely on landmark information in the presence of both informative and uninformative geometric cues. The series of experiments are carefully conducted and technically sound and the paper overall is well-written and easy to follow, with the figures being especially useful. The authors employ the traditional reorientation paradigm using both rectangular and square spaces to provide informative and uninformative geometric cues to the fish. The focus here is on a type of memory being employed (working or reference memory) - given that most of the research in this field has focused on reference memory, the fact that the authors specifically address working memory makes it especially interesting since less is known about this type of behavior in the comparative literature. The paper overall is cogent and carefully written but I did see some minor grammatical errors: Line 58: should be "to reorient" instead of "in" Line 112: "its" should be "their" since it's plural Line 257: For the purpose of clarity, were there any extra-tank cues? For example, was a curtain around the apparatus or was it in an open room with furniture, etc? Line 819: "they seemed able" (delete "are") Line 826: "revealing only a strong attraction to the landmark" - I'm unclear which specific landmark is being referred to here or what constitutes a "strong attraction" Line 834:"when" instead of "with" Line 840: "dependently" - do you mean "dependent" Line 847: Should read "they are not able to integrate" A final point is more interpretive. The authors nicely demonstrate a difference in working memory landmark use between the rectangular space (Experiment 1) and the square space (Experiment 2) - specifically that the fish can beacon toward their correct landmark in the rectangle but not the square. As you point out in the discussion, the landmarks in the nearby corners also become attractors and the fish essentially divide their choices among 3 landmarks. Given the reduced space of the square relative to the rectangle, is it possible that - in the absence of informative geometry - the fish are employing a viewpoint strategy in which they've encoded the 3 landmarks in close proximity of each other as a "scene" of landmarks and are treating them all as equally correct? Perhaps a point worth addressing, especially given the interest that viewpoint-matching researchers would have in this type of article. Overall a very interesting article and a pleasure to read. Reviewer #3: With 4 experiments, the authors examine the encoding of landmarks during reorientation in different conditions. Variables that are addressed are presence/absence of geometric information, location of landmark relative to the target, and type of paradigm (working memory or reference memory). Results confirm previous studies suggesting that the type of paradigm plays a crucial role in the encoding of landmarks. Main issues 1) Impact. I believe the impact of the paper is not well conveyed. What makes this study different from previous studies (starting from Cheng, 1986) which have already found that feature cues are encoded less with a working memory paradigm (compared to a reference memory paradigm)? By reading this, I couldn’t understand if this study was just a replication (still worthy of reporting, but not as impactful) or something new was addressed. Related to this, I was VERY surprised that the authors didn’t cite a previous study of theirs [Lee, S. A., Tucci, V., Sovrano, V. A., & Vallortigara, G. (2015). Working memory and reference memory tests of spatial navigation in mice (Mus musculus). Journal of Comparative Psychology, 129(2), 189-197] that examines a very similar issue. From what I understand, the novelty of this study is perhaps the variable of presence/absence of useful geometry, which hasn’t received a lot of attention, rather than just WM vs RM. In any case, a more developed introduction and discussion focused on the novelty of their study is necessary to dissolve the doubts about the contribution of the present research to the literature. As it is now, this is not convincing. 2) The result section is VERY long, redundant, and difficult to follow. The authors need to improve readability. Some issues/questions/ideas are the following: a) I would strongly suggest organizing the results more clearly in separate paragraphs, possibly with headings, and maybe with a brief conclusion FOR EACH. b) The choice of having two DV per experiment is questionable. I am wondering if there is any advantage to reporting two DVs? They should be consistent with each other. If they are, I recommend only reporting one. If not, this is a problem – you cannot pick a DV at will in order to support an argument. c) It also makes it confusing that you report the results BOTH comparing conditions (a, b, c) and then individually for each condition. Wouldn’t it be clearer (and shorter) just to report the analysis per each condition individually? Unless I am missing something, in that way you should still be able to infer the preference for a corner. Then you can always have a specific TARGETED comparison between conditions. 3) I don’t agree with the definition given of “working memory” procedure (Line 115) and with the way it is used in the whole paper. To the best of my knowledge, WM paradigm consist in varying the target location on each trial, such that the subject needs to use working memory to retrieve the target. This is in contrast with reference memory paradigms, in which the target location is consistent across trials and the subject can use long-term memory. Therefore, the difference between working and reference memory paradigm is NOT based on the presence of reinforcement. In fact, in Cheng’s (1986) working memory experiment, the correct location was baited (food pellets were present). In your study, did the correct corner vary on each trial? If yes, then it was a WM paradigm. It might well be that in your specific study, the task used working memory AND was also without reinforcement (free exploration); however, reinforcement and working/reference paradigm are orthogonal concepts and should not be used interchangeably. This applies to your entire paper. Please clarify the distinction and change your paper accordingly. Minor issues Title. The title would be more specific (and consistent with the literature) if it used the word “reorientation” rather than “navigation”. Line 769. “while the difference between C and X2 was not COMPLETELY significant”. This wording is incorrect. Either a difference is statistically significant or not. Experiment 3 and 4. I am wondering about the choice to use an external RECTANGULAR water tank as opposed to a square. Could this have provided geometric information to the subjects? Was the internal square plastic tank rotated relative to this larger, external, rectangular tank between trials? Line 871. Conclusion. “fish could not use the landmarks at all to resolve the four-way spatial symmetry.” This statement needs to be qualified. They could use landmarks, at least in certain conditions. Figures. The figures of the results should have an asterisk (*) adjacent to a significantly preferred corner. This would help a lot. The paper needs proofreading. Line 58. …ability of disoriented rats TO reorient… Line 105. …has been shown to PLAY a fundamental… Line 109. … successful learning OF landmarks and geometry… Line 212. “remarkable to note”. Better would be “It should be noted…” And there are MANY other cases. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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