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PONE-D-19-26924 Dissection of flag leaf metabolic shifts and their relationship with those occurring simultaneously in developing seed by application of non-targeted metabolomics PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Shi, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Dec 30 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Competing interests can arise in relationship to an organization or another person. Please follow this link to our website for more details on competing interests: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/competing-interests [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: Yes ********** 3. 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PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes Reviewer #4: No ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The authors apply untargeted mass spectrometry-based metabolomics to compare metabolic differences between flag leaves and rice seeds during development. A number of technical issues need to be addressed: 1. The number of biological replicates (n=4) seems unnecessarily low, especially given the ready accessibility of rice leaves/seeds. The low number of replicates raises concerns about the statistical significance of the findings. a. Further troubling is the following statement in the methods: “Two flag leaves from two individual plant were pooled as one biological replication. Flag leaves or rice seeds from two individual plants were pooled as one biological replication.” Under most circumstances, there is no reason to pool biological replicates. This only masks the “true” biological variance between replicates. Now, if the reason that multiple leaves/seeds were pooled is because a single leave/seed did not provide enough sample for detection purposes, then this should have been discussed in the main text. Importantly, this would have further justified the need for the number of biological replicates to be greater than four. 2. GC-MS and UHPLC-MS in the positive and negative mode were used to characterize the leaves/seeds metabolome. This is fine and actually a strength of the proposal, but what is not addressed is how the data sets were normalized to each other? The authors state that the data was normalized to sample weight. This is insufficient. There is too much instrument and sample preparation variability to strictly rely on only a simple constant-number normalization scheme. a. What about internal/external standards? b. What about QC samples? How was batch variability handled? c. How were the samples collected? Was the sample order randomized? Were the GC-MS and UHPLC-MS collected simultaneously? Sequentially? On different days? Was the same sample sub-sampled for GC-MS and UHPLC-MS or were different samples prepared? d. Could all of the observed variance be attributed to how the samples were prepared and handled, and how the spectra were collected, instrument variation and insufficient normalization? Because of the nature of MS data, it is “easy” to obtain distinct groups, but it can be difficult to validate that the differences are real. 3. On pages 8-10, the authors over-interpret the significance and the meaning of the relative/comparative meaning of scores/loadings from the various PCA models. Relative trends within a given model are fine, but there is not a point of reference to compare between PCA models. The appearance of a PCA scores plot can change dramatically from any number of reasons, such as changing the order of the samples in the data matrix, changing normalization/scaling methods, removing/adding samples, etc. Given that this section does not provide any real insight or contribute significantly to the study, I would recommend removing it. The fact that the metabolomes vary as a function of time and cultivar is sufficient. 4. In the data analysis section, the authors state: “False Discovery Rate is chosen for multiple testing correction.” But, it is not clear if all reported p-values are FDR corrected p-values or what type of FDR correction method is used. 5. The heatmap, Figure 4, should be plotted with all biological replicates (not average values) and with hierarchal clustering in both dimensions. This may further emphasize additional consistencies (like Figure 4B) or other trends across the entire dataset. 6. I understand the choice behind grouping the metabolites by class in the correlation map (Figure 6). But, as is, it fails in being informative. Instead, the metabolites should be ordered from the highest positive to the lowest negative correlation. Then, clusters of metabolites that belong to the same metabolic pathway, cellular process or chemical class within the highly positive/negative correlation should be labeled. Reviewer #2: Hu and colleagues address here the understudied subject of the metabolic contribution of the flag leaf (a term that refers to the last growing leaf of rice that is key to the carbon flux into the grain). Flag leaf development is coincident with flowering, thus the properties of this leaf are tightly connected to the final outcome in terms of growth, yield and content of the rice grain. For this reason, for understanding the metabolics events taking place during rice seed development as well as sink-source relationship, it is key to study both flag leaf and grain. The study here used an extensive metabolic platform to investigate the metabolic dynamic changes of flag leaves and grain in 4 rice cultivars (2 indica and 2 japonica subspecies) and to give a broad insight into the influx of metabolites from flag leaf to grain, as well as into the outcome of grain in the light of natural variation. As the study is descriptive in nature, it is raising an important contribution to our current knowledge on this important subject and can path the way for future work: it will be very interesting to follow the secondary metabolites identified here as candidates to be transported from flag leaf to seeds, and their role . The presentation of the work is easy to follow; data and experiments are well documented and in the data analysis appropriate statistical analysis was applied. I have few minor comments / suggestion: Figure 5: in my opinion, this figure could be shifted to a supplementary file. Page 28 lines 452: pipecolic acid has indeed emerged in recent years as a key defense mediator. I can see the possible role of this signal metabolites in grain for deterring pathogens. Could you also add here a sentence about the possible negative correlation (impact) between Pip and final grain weight as a result of the defense cost. Reviewer #3: The study of Hu et al titled "Dissection of flag leaf metabolic shifts and their relationship with those occurring simultaneously in developing seed by application of non-targeted metabolomics" investigated the metabolic changes of flag leaves in two japonica and two indica rice cultivars using non-targeted metabolomics approach. This study revealed that flag leaf metabolomes varied significantly on both species and developmental stage, with only a few of the metabolites in flag leaves showing the same pattern of change in the four tested cultivars. The authors also found that levels of 45 metabolites in seeds that are associated with human nutrition and health correlated significantly with their levels in flag leaves. This study is well organized and provides important insight into the nature of the metabolic flux from source to sink organs in rice. Some minor comments are as follows: Line 34, &135: Please use the uniform presentation of Principal component analysis (PCA) throughout the manuscript. Line 47: “in the word” ? Line 176-177: “relatively small, relative large”, I feel the usages are quite strange. Line 292-293: Please rewrite this sentence. Line 325: rice grain or rice seed? It would be better to keep it uniform throughout the manuscript. Line 351: R-value or r value? It would be better to keep it uniform throughout the manuscript. Line 354: the word “arguably” used here is quite confusing. Line 446: “that fact that flux modelling in in”, a “in” should be deleted. Line 504: “giving” should be “given” Line 527: “these species” are ambiguous Reviewer #4: Metabolic changes in flag leaves and developing seeds of four rice cultivars were analyzed. Limited overlap in metabolite features were observed among the four lines. Forty-five metabolites enriched in seeds showed a similar pattern of accumulation in leaves and seeds. The authors hypothesize that these data “revealed not only the function of the tissue-specific metabolites but also provide important insight into the nature of the metabolic flux from source to sink organs in rice”. Not certain if this was actuallydone, there were no flux measurements. Just levels at discrete timepoints, with the leaf samples analyzed much later than the seed samples. There are number of places in the manuscript with long run-on sentences with diverse ideas. These should be rewritten with simpler sentences. Abstract: Lines 40-44 needs to be rewritten, especially lines 42-44 which should be deleted. These statements have nothing to do with this study (they should be ok in the last section of the discussion). Introduction: Line 57 – brackets are missing for reference 3. Lines 57-62 – Please rewrite, not sure what the authors are trying to convey here. Line 102 – we report changes in metabolite levels in flag leaves and developing seed from flowering to seed dessication. The (our) aim was to reveal the source and sink metabolite relationships in rice. Results: Lines 145 to 147 – these varieties show similar senescence patterns (from Introduction), so it should not be surprising that their metabolomes were relatively similar. Also, for Lines 146 to 149. Line 160 – Figure 2 C, the line joining the 2 sets of cultivars should be deleted. They need to describe a bit better why Qingfengai has a very different pattern than the other 3 cultivars. Not fully certain about the need for Figure 2. Figure 1 sums up their data and Figure 3 and later show differences if any among the 4 cultivars. Line 237 – should be “extent” Figure 3 – quite surprising that only linolenate increased with time in flag leaves (expected from lipid breakdown), and the overall patterns for the other metabolites very similar (all decrease over time). Line 241-244 – Not sure what this sentence intends to convey? Would not changes in amino acids in flag leaves be largely driven by senescence between 14 and 28 days? Is it not more likely that proteins broken down to amino acids were being mobilized from the flag leaves to developing seeds? The remarkable consistency in data shown in Figure 4B would suggest similarities in the senescence process. Discussion: A considerable problem the authors face in interpretation is as follows: By and large a bulk of the metabolites unloaded into developing seeds can be expected to be monomers, which are likely to be converted rapidly within developing seeds into polymers, such as proteins, starch, membranes, RNA, and DNA. That is flag leaf metabolism is dissimilatory during senescence, whereas seed metabolism is assimilatory prior to desiccation. The authors consider this point but should discuss the shortcomings of their current experimental protocol in somewhat greater detail. A case in point is Table 4, where they detected significant associations in metabolites between seeds and leaves. However, it is difficult to discern if there was/is a direct biological correlation between these levels in the two tissues. Can they be sure these compounds came from the flag leaves to seeds, and say not from root transfer? There are other aspects the authors should consider – both flag leaf senescence and seed development in rice have been intensely studied using physiological, biochemical and molecular tools. It may help if they could incorporate key findings from such studies within the scope of their metabolite analyses. They mention as much in their conclusions. It might be best to revise the manuscript to stay within the key elements of their work (flag leaf metabolomes) and draw a simpler inference to their earlier work with seeds [ref 20]. It is also not clear if the instrument settings and detector sensitivity were the same for the two experiments. There was no mention of an internal standard used if it was they should add this to their M&M section. Materials and Methods: Lines 482-484 appear to be repeated? I am not sure I fully understand their approach to metabolites missing in one or more samples. It might be best to exclude these metabolites from further analyses. It was either present or absent in a given extract. What exactly is the median value of a metabolite, area in all four samples, area in 2 out of 4 replicates? Please clarify. The authors could consider treating them as missing values and make comparisons based on samples or treatment groups with detectable levels. Another alternative would be to do a binomial test (e.g. Chi-square) based on presence or absence of a metabolite. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. 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