Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 27, 2019 |
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PONE-D-19-18148 TRANSCRANIAL MAGNETIC STIMULATION INDUCED SILENT PERIOD AND REBOUND ACTIVITY RE-EXAMINED PLOS ONE Dear Prof. Turker, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The main issue is that CSP duration by SEMG was only 46.4 ms (mean), whereas in many previous studies the CSP duration were over 100 ms and in some cases over 200 ms. Previous studies already demonstrated potential “spinal” inhibition in the first 50 ms of the SP and your study adds further information on this early phase of inhibition. However, it does not provide information to the later stages of CSP (~100 ms). There is some discussion in the paper of the low intensity used but this largely relates to technical issues of not able to test higher intensities with the methods used. It appears unlikely that the mechanisms proposed in the present study can account for the much longer CSP durations reported in other studies in the literature. This need to be clearly acknowledged in the abstract and in the discussion. The abstract indicates that “the CSP may denote a continuation of the excitatory period initiated by TMS-induced MEP”. While this is technically correct, it is confusing as it suggest that the excitability during CSP is increased but there is decreased number of motor units firing possibly due to the refractory period. Part of the CSP may be related to the falling phase of net EPSP induced by TMS should be mentioned in the abstract. Please discuss the proposed mechanisms for increased firing rate for the small number of units that fires during the CSP. The statement that “the silent period may not represent a genuine inhibitory period” is an overstatement because there is other evidence for cortical inhibition for example from epidural recording of D and I waves as noted by one of the reviewers. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Sep 20 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This study used three different techniques to analyze the same set of data with recordings after a transcranial magnetic brain stimulation. The three techniques were surface electromyography, peristimulus time histogram and peristimulus frequencygram. The recording was a motor evoked potential followed by a cortical silent period in the tibialis anterior or abductor pollicis brevis muscle. The main result was that the well-known suppression of background discharge during silent period cannot be observed with the frequencygram. Instead, the firing rate analysis revealed a long-lasting excitatory period and a long-latency inhibitory period starting at the middle of silent period seen in the surface electromyographic recording. The conclusion was that the silent period may denote a continuation of the excitatory period initiated by the motor evoked potential. Rebound activity may represent tendon organ inhibition induced by muscle contraction due to the magnetic stimulation or long-latency intracortical inhibition. This is an interesting study with a conclusion different from many (almost all) other studies in the field. I have a few minor comments, mainly for the interpretation of the results. The authors’ previous studies investigated how the electromyographic recordings in a muscle might estimate the synaptic potential and how surface recording and peristimulus time histogram may lead to the error in the estimation. I think these background knowledges should be briefly reviewed in the introduction. The point should also be discussed with the present results. Similarly, it was missed in the method part how the technique with peristimulus frequencygram is performed and how it is technically different from the peristimulus time histogram. One technical issue is that this study used very low stimulus intensity. Therefore, only motoneurons with low firing threshold were recorded. The widely accepted GABAB mediated inhibition during silent period may act on the majority of the corticospinal neurons but not on this group of neurons with low threshold. I wonder if this should be further considered. The mechanism with the function of tendon organ inhibitory interneuron was extensively discussed. However, I feel the discussion was speculative as the muscle contraction with the very low stimulus intensity should be subtle. By the way, the model illustrated in the last figure was somewhat different from the discussion and could be removed entirely. Minor points: Current orientation of the stimulation for the tibialis anterior muscle should be mentioned. I doubt the 4 cm distance between two electrodes for recording in the abductor pollicis brevis muscle. Stimulus intensity related to the maximal device output should be reported for both muscles. Force output related to the maximal output should also be reported. Reviewer #2: The authors hypothesise that “the CSP may not reflect an inhibitory postsynaptic potential (IPSP) only but include a period of excitatory postsynaptic potential (EPSP)”. In the discussion they suggest that “that the silent period may not represent a genuine inhibitory period, instead it may be due to a falling phase of a compound net EPSP generated by the TMS”. The rebound phase would be related to “twitch-induced autogenic inhibition by tendon organ inhibitory interneurons”. While the CSP is likely composed of cortical and spinal phenomena, I think the interpretation here doesn’t sufficiently acknowledge the wealth of previous evidence of a cortical IPSP. If one is to reconceptualise the CSP, how do the authors account for the finding that epidural volleys indicate that cortical output is reduced from 50-200ms (Chen et al., 1999)? This is critical, because it is a direct demonstration of reduced cortical output during this time. Peripheral observations on the other hand can only comment on the net effects of cortical, spinal (GTO inhibition etc.) and local phenomena in muscle units. Similarly, TMS-EEG studies have demonstrated inhibitory correlates of the CSP. This evidence needs to be included and interpretation adjusted accordingly. Certainly, as the authors note, pharmacological studies elicit systematic changes in GABA - but what of the study by Pierantozzi et al., 2004 which concluded that the observed effects were not driven by peripheral effects of the drug? Such findings suggest that the CSP is likely related to long lasting IPSP at the cortex. These findings represent just some of the wealth of evidence for cortical inhibitory contributions to the CSP. The authors could perhaps refocus their paper to better acknowledge this evidence and then the additional information that is provided by their measures. The authors work has value in providing further evidence that the CSP may be a messy measure that is confounded by spinal contributions. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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PONE-D-19-18148R1 TRANSCRANIAL MAGNETIC STIMULATION INDUCED SILENT PERIOD AND REBOUND ACTIVITY RE-EXAMINED PLOS ONE Dear Prof. Turker, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please review comments and suggestions from Reviewer 2. The statement that the study “does not provide information about later parts of much longer CSPs induced by high intensity TMS” is now included in the Abstract. I suggest that you include a similar statement in the limitation section of the Discussion We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Dec 13 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: The authors have incorporated many of the reviewer suggestions. I felt that the importance of some of the points raised by reviewers wasn’t fully reflected in the updated manuscript. In particular, the following inclusion just glosses over this point “Previously proposed mechanisms for the cortical silent period have focused on theories regarding cortical inhibition [7, 10, 45, 46].” Actually, I think that in the spirit of transparent/clear science, it is absolutely critical to more clearly and explicitly acknowledge that cortical inhibitory mechanisms contribute to the late CSP, in particular, it should be specifically stated that there is clear evidence that epidural volleys are reduced in amplitude during the CSP (Chen et al, 1999) and that Pierantozzi et al., 2004 concluded that the drug effects they observed were not driven by peripheral effects – this indicates that the late cortical component of the CSP is likely an inhibitory phenomenon mediated by GABA. CSP duration is typically in the order of 100-200ms (Chin et al., Brain Res, 2012) and the time-course of spinal contributions has been partially illustrated using brainstem stimulation (Inglhilleri; 1993; JPhysiol). This leaves plenty of scope for the authors to still demonstrate the mechanisms of the spinal contribution and does not detract from this. I have a few further other suggestions (in astereisks), which in my view clarify an important distinction relative to the bulk of the literature on this topic: -Title: “Transcranial magnetic stimulation induced *early* silent period and rebound activity re-examined” -Abstract – “Our aim is to better characterize the *early* CSP phenomena by combining various analysis tools on firing motor units.” “Discharge rate analysis, however, revealed not three, but just two events with distinct time courses; a long-lasting excitatory period (71.2 ± 9.0 ms for TA and 42.1 ± 11.2 ms for APB) and a long-latency inhibitory period.” - *insert total duration at end of sentence (i.e. around 46ms). The early phase of the CSP is conventionally considered as the first 50ms, whereas the remainder up to several hundred ms is considered mostly cortical. I think the article is still not making this distinction sufficiently clear. -In the discussion, the following header could be retitled as follows for clarity: “*Early* cortical silent period may represent a net excitatory postsynaptic potential” “This limitation also restricted us from directly comparing the MEP and CSP sizes and durations with the literature as they have used much stronger stimulus intensities than this study. *This means our analysis was constrained to the first 50ms of the CSP, whereas CSP duration is typically in the order of 100-200ms.*” ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? 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Response to Reviewers TRANSCRANIAL MAGNETIC STIMULATION INDUCED EARLY SILENT PERIOD AND REBOUND ACTIVITY RE-EXAMINED PONE-D-19-18148R2 Dear Dr. Turker, We are pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it complies with all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you will receive an e-mail containing information on the amendments required prior to publication. When all required modifications have been addressed, you will receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will proceed to our production department and be scheduled for publication. Shortly after the formal acceptance letter is sent, an invoice for payment will follow. To ensure an efficient production and billing process, please log into Editorial Manager at https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the "Update My Information" link at the top of the page, and update your user information. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to enable them to help maximize its impact. If they will be preparing press materials for this manuscript, you must inform our press team as soon as possible and no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. With kind regards, Robert Chen Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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