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PONE-D-19-28957 Lesion of striatal patches disrupts habitual behaviors and increases behavioral variability PLOS ONE Dear Mr. Nadel, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. ============================== In addressing the reviewers' concerns, please note my comment below regarding reviewer #2's request that you repeat the experiments. ============================== We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Dec 22 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: This paper reports the effects of striosome/patch lesions in the dorsolateral striatum on instrumental behavior in mice. Using a Cre driver line that allows selective lesion of patch neurons, the authors used standard procedures such as devaluation and omission to test the hypothesis that patch neurons could contribute to habitual formation. They concluded that patch lesions weakened habitual control. The experiments are well designed and novel, and on the whole the paper is well written. I do have a few questions concerning the interpretation. It'd be helpful if the authors could address these. 1. The results show that patch lesions did not affect devaluation, but increased sensitivity to imposition of the omission contingency. While both tests have been used to test for habits, they are obviously different and in principle could be dissociated. This should be explicitly discussed. The original use of the omission schedule also focuses on differential reinforcement of other behaviors, which could be relevant here (Davis and Bitterman 1971). 2. One interesting feature of the data is increased behavioral variability in the lesion mice. However, the same analysis was not performed on behavior on devaluation and omission tests. Why not? It'd be helpful to see this analysis. 3. discussion of increased variability includes the possibility of impaired reward memory consolidation. I'm not sure if I can follow the logic here. This is very briefly mentioned with no citation. Some elaboration is needed to clarify this point, or the authors should remove it. 4. The discussion of motor pattern crystalization is interesting. Dezfouli and Balleine published a series of papers examining the relationship between behavioral chunking, sequence learning, and habit formation (e.g. 2013). These should be discussed in relation to the current finding. Also, the work showing DLS contribution to sequence learning (e.g. Yin 2010) seems relevant. Reviewer #2: This paper examines how lesions of the patch compartment in the dorsal striatum affect habitual control of instrumental performance in mice. While the main research focus has been on lateral versus medial dorsal striatum, the contributions of the patch and matrix compartments are unknown. The authors find that patch lesions induced by caspase 3 result in increased lever pressing variability and altered micro-structure of lever pressing. During selective satiety tests conducted after instrumental training, the lesion animals appear to not differ from sham animals—both seem to show instrumental insensitivity to devaluation. However, during omission tests, lesion animals show lower lever pressing rates, which suggests greater sensitivity to the action-outcome association. This is despite no apparent differences in overall motor activity, as assessed by a number of tests. Major comments: The method of reward devaluation is problematic. The reason for using a specific satiety procedure is to control for general satiety, but using chow as a control when the mice are food-deprived does not accomplish that. The mice are food-deprived, and they will consume more chow than sucrose solution. This makes the tests an unfair comparison, because the mice are differentially sated during the tests. If half the mice were trained to earn sucrose and the other half chow, this method would be slightly less problematic. However, given that all mice were trained to earn sucrose solution, the appropriate control is another type of solution (e.g. maltodextrin). This is an especially important point given that the authors’ goal is to elicit habits. Given that the ‘valued’ test is likely associated with increased consumption relative to the ‘devalued’ test, it’s no surprise that the authors found no difference in instrumental performance between valued and devalued test. But it’s unclear if this can be attributed to a habit or asymmetrical consumption—thus undermining the main point of the paper. I recommend running the experiment again, but using a better control for general satiety that equates consumption between valued and devalued tests. The authors present and analyze normalized pressing rates to gauge habitual responding, but I strongly recommend presenting and analyzing the raw pressing rates for devaluation and omission tests, either instead of or in addition to the normalized rates. Raw pressing rates provide a straightforward measure of performance, while also removing any suspicion associated with normalized data. Line 262-263: “In the context of the variable interval schedule, a single press followed by head entry is the most efficient strategy to obtain a reward, while head-entries followed by presses are less efficient”. This is confusing. To the naïve reader, it sounds like the authors are saying that on a VI, it is optimal to always check the magazine after a single lever press, and it is not optimal to check the magazine after a series of presses. Is this what the authors are suggesting? If so, it does not make much sense, and needs to be explained. It would help to present a rigorous definition of efficiency. Line 295-296: “This finding is not consistent with prior reports”. Are the authors suggesting that the decrease in instrumental performance across two days of extinction is inconsistent with prior reports? If so, that is not true. Instrumental performance usually decreases with increased extinction experience. For the data in Fig 5B, the results of the interaction test are not reported, and the main effect of group is not statistically significant. Yet, the authors perform a post-hoc test anyway. This seems inappropriate. The results from the omission test are interesting, and the authors interpret the data to mean that patch lesions disrupt habit formation. An alternative interpretation that should be mentioned is that patch lesions facilitate the emergence of goal-directed control. The standard way of thinking about action control on a VI schedule is that goal-directed control appears early and then erodes with more extensive training to make way for a habit. However, a recent paper (Garr et al., 2019; DOI: 10.1037/xan0000229) has proposed a revision of this belief. Specifically, those authors argue that goal-directed control on VI schedules will eventually emerge with truly extensive training, but is also mediated by the average action-outcome interval. In light of this view, the omission data could be taken to mean that patch lesions facilitate goal-directed control, and for the sake of balance, the authors should mention it. Minor comments: How were the intervals distributed on the VI schedules? Also, why did the authors choose to implement a lower bound? This seems unusual to me. There is a section titled ‘Probe trials’. I recommend changing the title to ‘Probe tests’, because the task is free-operant without any discrete trials. Line 142-143: “Omission is a more robust means of extinguishing habitual responding…”. More robust than what? In Fig 3A, B, D, E, there are 5 lines per plot. I assume that some of those lines represent SEM bounds, but this is not stated in the caption nor is it clearly depicted. Part of the problem is that the figures are blurry. In Fig 4D, it’s unclear what the data are normalized to. Line 319-320: “We next analyzed the press rates within the first and second halves of this first omission trial”. What do the authors mean by “trial”? The test is free-operant without any discrete trials, correct? Reviewer #3: Re: PONE-D-19-28957 This present manuscript evaluates the contributions of striatal patches to instrumental learning and motor learning. Recent works have shown similar findings, using different approaches. Here, they rely on a Cre line expressed in patches, and then use a cre-dependent caspase virus to delete neurons within a patch. They find that learned lever press responding is somewhat more variable in patch-lesioned mice, and that some aspects of what has been termed habitual control are disrupted. There does not seem to be large differences in motor effects. Together, this may add novel data to the literature about how patches supporting the learning and performance of actions. There are interesting ideas about stabilizing response patterns, and in the context of Bouton’s recent work is an interesting find. A few comments made below would help to clarify and solidify the findings. In addition, there may be concerns about the stability of the Cre line used. DATA - I do not believe it is appropriate to use ANOVAs for analysis of the variability data. The data is bimodal in its distribution, and an assumption when using ANOVA is that the data follows a normal distribution. That being said, it is tricky implement non-parametric tests as well, but probably necessary here. As it stands, it is hard to see the argument for this being appropriate. - Continuing with statistics, there are places where post-hoc comparisons in the absence of an a priori hypothesis are not warranted. Following up main effects within a group is fine, but comparisons of data points between groups is not appropriate if there is not a significant interaction. One such place is in the motor rod data, and the use of a post hoc to justify day 1 investigations. - Reliance on the use of presence/absence of GFP may not be sufficient to make the claim of patch deletion. While two previous papers were cited (one of which one author was on), a quick check of those papers did not alleviate these concerns. It seems like it is quite leaky and how many cells are taken out of patches (by mu opioid staining is not clear). This doesn’t seem to be a patch selective, but just more expression within a patch. CLARITY -line 45, changes in action-outcomes contingencies are not determined via outcome devaluation, but by probes that examine contingency - line 70- there is no evidence lesioned mice are “suppressing” unnecessary response. -142, line 374, omission is robust at testing for habitual responding, and extinction is observed, but faster in goal-directed control -line 207- press rates results are discussed, but then followed by number of lever presses, makes looking at the graphs confusing initially. -line 288 – noticed a significant effect on press rate - for comparisons on presence of “habitual behavior”, omission day press rate should be compared to baseline with a one-sample t-test, to show it in Sham but not caspase. -more should be said about the distribution of patches across striatum, as this is lesions to DMS and DLS, which support seemingly different roles. -line 453, does not seem to need a reference, or at least going to the references and seeing reviews is a bit confusing here. ********** 6. 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PONE-D-19-28957R1 Lesion of striatal patches disrupts habitual behaviors and increases behavioral variability PLOS ONE Dear Mr. Nadel, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The reviewers are mostly satisfied with the submitted revision, though two minor lingering points need to be addressed. (1) the genetic mutation is not entirely specific to striosomes and is 'leaky.' While this in no way diminishes the value of the reported findings, this needs to clearly be stated in the discussion as a caveat with a very brief description how not completely specific to striosomes, (2) another reviewer continues to request raw data. As this does not seem to be a concern for the other reviewers, I would ask the authors provide me (editor) an explanation of why raw data is not included. The manuscript will not need to go out for review again. The authors' responses will be evaluated promptly by the editor and a final decision rendered. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Feb 01 2020 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: (No Response) Reviewer #3: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly Reviewer #3: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: My concerns have been addressed by the authors. the manuscript has been improved considerably. The discussion now includes better acknowledgment of previous work, including the difference between omission and devaluation as assays for habitual performance. The additional discussion of different aspects of habitual behavior is also appropriate. I think the paper is now publishable. Reviewer #2: Overall, the authors have done a good job at addressing my previous comments. My additional comments are listed below. - Regarding my primary concern about the devaluation procedure, the authors claim that “the current approach using home-cage chow and liquid sucrose has been successfully employed in the literature (He et al. 2016; Li et al. 2018)”. The results of the He et al. paper alleviate my concern because the mice are food-deprived and when they are given selective satiety tests after training on a random ratio schedule, they show instrumental sensitivity to devaluation. This is encouraging. The Li et al. paper is less relevant because the mice are not reported as food-deprived, so I recommend removing this citation. The authors also appeal to the fact that other researches have used a combination of liquid and solid reinforcers during devaluation tests, but this does not relate to my concern and distracts from the main issue. My concern is a higher rate of consumption during devalued vs. valued tests (I would be concerned about this even if the authors used wildtype mice, so translating this concern into a caveat should generalize beyond Sepw1 mice). If the assignment of solid and liquid reinforcers is balanced across subjects, this concern goes away (mostly). I strongly recommend the authors rephrase the following paragraph by removing the first sentence and amending the second sentence to mean mice in general (not just Sepw1 mice): “The combination of liquid and solid reinforcers used across devaluation and valuation trials is common (Gremel and Costa 2013; Gremel et al. 2016; He et al. 2016; Li et al. 2018; Renteria et al. 2018). Nevertheless, the lack difference in our devaluation and valuation trials could be attributed to this asymmetry in reward, which Sepw1 mice may be particularly sensitive to”. - I previously recommended that the authors display and analyze the raw pressing rates from the selective satiety tests. However, in the revised paper the authors have only presented and analyzed raw pressing rates from the devalued condition but not the valued condition. I apologize if I was not clear, but this is the standard way of analyzing devaluation test data (comparing valued vs. devalued for each group). Without the raw pressing rates from the valued condition, there is no way to compare figures 4A and 4C. If the authors are going to present the raw pressing rates from the devalued condition, they must also present the raw pressing rates from the valued condition. Reviewer #3: The authors have largley addressed my concerns. The main one being the leakiness of the line. It still feels a bit misleading to state investigation of a patch deletion on these behaviors. The question of patch like-due to development is interesting, but a separate investigation. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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