Peer Review History
| Original SubmissionJune 3, 2019 |
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PONE-D-19-15733 Echocardiography Overestimates LV Mass in the Elderly as Compared to Cardiac CT PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Zwas, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Aug 25 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The main findings of this study is to correlate measurement of LV mass made by CT with traditional measurement made with echocardiography. Authors demonstrated that there is a good correlation with the 2 way of measurement but in elderly the echo systematically overestimate LV mass. The main problem with the study is related to the methodological and related to the wrong way of measurement of LV septal wall thickness. As they report in figure 1 they both use proximal and and mid septum measurements and when using mid septum measurement much of the echo-CT discrepancy is eliminated. But this is just because using the proximal measurement in old patients with septal bulge is just uncorrected and the main finding is justified by the high prevalence of septal bulge in old patients. This is a main issue to be solved. Minor Issue: - the characteristics of the study population is not described. Are all patients hypertensive? what was the reason of the CT scan? what was the prevalence of hypertension or aortic valve disease in the two groups? Have you excluded patients with severe aortic stenosis? - in the results section, please report the median and IQR of the time between CT and Echo. It seems that in some patients the echo and CT have been within more than 3 months -in the discuss section there is a long paragraph related to the fibrosis and increase cardiac collagen content. this is not pertinent to the this study. Reference: Please update Reviewer #2: In the article entitled "Echocardiography Overestimates LV Mass in the Elderly as Compared to Cardiac CT" the authors present the results of a cohort of 129 patients which had undergone both echocardiography and cardiac CT as part of their clinical workup. Analysis consisted of comparing LV geometric measurement between modalities in two cohorts of patients: younger than 65 yo and older. The main conclusion of this work is that LV mass correlates well between modalities, but agreement is better in young populations than in the older population. The authors convincingly argue that overestimation of echo-derived LV mass in the elderly is due to inaccurate assumptions of LV remodeling with age and briefly propose alternative methods to increase agreement between modalities. The article is well written and easy to follow. Study design, data analysis and statistical analysis are all appropriate. Nevertheless several important improvements should be made to the manuscript to help with readability and completeness: 1) In general the tables should be reformatted to avoid character spillover between lines. 2) Figures 3, 4 and 5, need to be reworked to make them more legible (larger font size), include measurement units on axis titles, and appropriate number of decimal places (Figure 3 in particular) 3) Throughout the document measurement units are absent in several places (e.g. LV mass in g) or erroneous (e.g. Table 1 RWT is unit-less, not cm) 4) Table 2 - should include LV mass data as this is the main metric discussed in the study. 5) There is mention of LV volumes briefly in the Discussion section, but these data are not shown. Consider adding the data to the tables and analysis if available or explaining its absence in more detail. 6) Readers may be interested in having measures LV mass correlation between modalities (for each cohort separately and combined). In addition, the linear regression function may be of interest as a method to calibrate between the two modalities. These data should be easily derived from the analysis in Figure 3. 7) On the Bland-Altman plots - please add the p-value for mean difference (bias) different from 0? These are presented in the text and should correspond. 8) The text refers to Figure 4 as an appendix - I believe this is a typo. 9) Some readers may benefit of an explanation of why you analyzed only the septum and posterior wall thicknesses (i.e. why are other walls excluded). 10) The discussion mentions several adjustments to echo LV mass measurements to improve agreement with CT and CMR, but falls short of making firm recommendations. Should echo LV mass be calibrated with an age adjusted function? should mid septum measurements be used? Or perhaps this data is too preliminary to make a firm recommendation? ********** 6. 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PONE-D-19-15733R1 Echocardiography Overestimates LV Mass in the Elderly as Compared to Cardiac CT PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Zwas, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process We would appreciate receiving your revised manuscript by Oct 28 2019 11:59PM. When you are ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. To enhance the reproducibility of your results, we recommend that if applicable you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io, where a protocol can be assigned its own identifier (DOI) such that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
Please note while forming your response, if your article is accepted, you may have the opportunity to make the peer review history publicly available. The record will include editor decision letters (with reviews) and your responses to reviewer comments. If eligible, we will contact you to opt in or out. We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Giacomo Pucci Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The comments have been correctly answered by the Authors, but the discuss section needs to be better focused on the main concern raised by the reviewer. IF the main point is to address the issue of incorrect measurement of LV mass in older people with septal bulge, this should be better underlined. Regarding the days between the ECHO and CT, please report median and not mean. Reviewer #2: The authors have generally addressed this reviewers’ comments, however few corrections are still required: 1) Page 9 - reference "{Lang, 2015 #34}" should be corrected. 2) Page 9 - after "(folded empirical cumulative distribution plots" a bracket is missing. 3) Page 10 - comma missing after "IBM". 4) Page 10 - Results - mean number of days between CT and echo was previously reported as 19 and now as 3. What is the reason for this change? Is there a typo and mean should be median??? 5) Figure 3 caption - the line of identity is descried as black but, on my screen, appears blue (might be low quality rendering). Please ensure consistency. 6) Figure 4 caption - refers to multiple Bland-Altman plots, but only 1 was included in this revision (original submission had 2). 7) Page 19 there is an erroneous line break before references [29, 30]. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). 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Echocardiography Overestimates LV Mass in the Elderly as Compared to Cardiac CT PONE-D-19-15733R2 Dear Dr. Zwas, We are pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it complies with all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you will receive an e-mail containing information on the amendments required prior to publication. When all required modifications have been addressed, you will receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will proceed to our production department and be scheduled for publication. Shortly after the formal acceptance letter is sent, an invoice for payment will follow. To ensure an efficient production and billing process, please log into Editorial Manager at https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the "Update My Information" link at the top of the page, and update your user information. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to enable them to help maximize its impact. If they will be preparing press materials for this manuscript, you must inform our press team as soon as possible and no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. With kind regards, Giacomo Pucci Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: Yes: Costantino Mancusi |
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