Dear Editors,
We appreciate the thoughtful consideration of our work by the reviewers and have addressed
their comments to the best of our ability. Our responses to each comment are provided
below.
In particular, we expanded our analysis to include a duplication of our methods but
using a dataset limited to trade relationships potentially associated with wild capture
fisheries only. We present this parallel analysis to account for differences associated
with aquaculture-produced products.
We believe our manuscript is greatly strengthened by the incorporation of the reviewer
comments and is now ready for publication in PLoS ONE.
Thank you,
Kayla Blincow
(on behalf of all authors)
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3. I agree with one reviewer that a weakness should be the assumption that sustainability
was the same for both aquaculture and capture fisheries in a country. however, I am
equally aware of the absence of specific information that could help the authors consider
this aspect. I therefore also suggest that the authors try to use the commercial data
of the taxonomic group to try to make a subdivision, albeit summary, into aquaculture
and capture fishing. This could provide a further
We included an additional parallel analysis (called the aquaculture exclusion analysis
in the update manuscript) addressing the issue of aquaculture more directly, duplicating
our methods only removing trade relationships associated with potential aquaculture
products (see L167–180). This parallel analysis is reported in the written results
as well as in the supplement via figures and tables that mirror those generated for
the core analysis (see Supplement).
Reviewer 1:
This is an interesting look at how the sustainability of seafood differs between countries,
and between imports and exports. The authors seem to have a done thorough job of obtaining
all available data and making well-reasoned assumptions to fill in missing information.
We appreciate the positive feedback from the reviewer.
Introduction
Line 52: what is “fisheries-induced evolution”?
We added some additional explanation of the impacts that arise from fisheries-induced
evolution (L44-45).
Are there any data on sales of sustainably certified seafood products? Either globally
or worldwide? It would be interesting to see this as a measure of consumer demand
and willingness to pay for sustainable fisheries. Because that in turn can lead to
more sustainable fisheries, even in the absence of a top-down push for greater sustainability.
There is work done in specific fisheries (e.g. Andersson and Hammarlun (2023) Ecological
Economics), but we are not aware of data that includes this information on a scale
that matches our analysis in this manuscript. The Marine Stewardship Council, the
primary global eco-certification organization, actively supports research to explore
this, but it has been challenging to demonstrate the impacts (e.g. Arton et al. (2020)
Environmental Evidence). We discuss the roles of consumer-driven demand in the discussion
section more thoroughly in light of the findings of our analysis (L496-523).
Is there any relevant international legislation around the sustainability of seafood
to reference? Or oceans protection, since those two are often intertwined.
We added a section addressing the role of international agreements around seafood
sustainability and the importance of national level implementation of these agreements
(L47-56).
Has there been any similar research?
We cited similar research throughout the introduction and discussion, but we have
now added an additional sentence explicitly listing previous studies as examples of
research addressing global and national seafood sustainability (L91).
Methods
Section 2.2. was a bit difficult for me to follow at times since it was so heavy on
equations. Not sure if there is anything that can be done differently, except maybe
providing an example? One seafood product type for one country example might be useful
for me, but other reviewers may not feel the need.
Previous drafts included an example, but it made the methods come across as disjointed.
We ultimately decided relying solely on equations is a more transparent and direct
way to describe the methods.
Results
Are there certain types of seafood products that are driving some of these trends?
E.g., are imports to the United States dominated by a couple of types of seafood products
that the US doesn’t really produce domestically? This would be interesting to see
and perhaps identify areas for improvement/potential projects.
Certainly, some countries tend to import more of certain types of products than others
depending on the market that exists within each country. However, this goes beyond
the scope of our analysis, as we were more interested in looking at global disparities
in production and consumption seafood sustainability on a broad scale, rather than
tracking trends in individual product types. That would be a substantially different
analysis; one that we have explored writing up as a separate manuscript.
Discussion
The key finding that countries producing more sustainable seafood end up consuming
a lot of less sustainable seafood is quite interesting (lines 330-331) and I think
merits more discussion. For example. in many developing countries small-scale fisheries
at the local level account for a lot of the seafood consumption, so the country does
not need to import a lot of fresh seafood to meet demands (although that is changing
in many cities).
We added discussion of the implications of developing countries relying on their own
production for seafood consumption (L432-438).
Lines 359-364: Any potential explanations why the sustainability disparity for the
US is so much larger than similar countries? Why is so much of the import from those
countries towards the bottom of the list?
We thank the reviewer for drawing attention to this point. We added discussion of
the causes of the differences between the US and other high production sustainability
countries (L453-458).
Why has there been decreased fisheries production? Overfishing, regulatory restrictions,
etc…
Previously published literature suggests that the decline in production from developed
countries in recent decades is associated with more stringent management and regulations
(Ye and Gutierrez 2017). The same paper offers this as an explanation for why we see
increased trade flows from developing to developed countries. We expanded discussion
of these relationships based on comments from both reviewers (L423-426).
Lines 450-451: I would be curious about some statistics around this as I was under
the impression that most fisheries were not sustainable. Or at least not certified
sustainable.
We added a citation to this statement so readers can reference previously published
analyses on sustainable seafood production in the developing world (L539).
Another thought/question:
Why does China dominate the export market? Is it mainly due to size (of population
and coastline/ocean territory)? I also find it surprising that China’s sustainability
is so low, given its economy. I would think it has the means to have greater oversight,
but maybe it chooses not to?
We added language describing some potential reasons as to why China dominates the
seafood export market (L62-463). These comments are in addition to the existing explanation
given as to why sustainability is low—that the inability of consumers to distinguish
between sustainable and unsustainable products results in a failure to economically
incentivize large-scale producers to create sustainable products (L509-523). In general,
we have tried to avoid painting China in a wholly negative light. More potential mechanistic
explanations are available in Melnychuk et al. (2017), to which we point readers.
Reviewer 2 Comments:
This paper uses an index of fisheries sustainability by country and fish trade data
to demonstrate that many countries that tend to manage their fisheries in a more sustainable
fashion import substantial portions of their fish for consumption from countries that
have lower sustainability standards. This is not particularly surprising, given that
even if trade is random, countries with higher sustainability standards would be expected
to on average import from countries with lower sustainability standards, although
it could be that high sustainability countries trade with each other and low sustainability
countries trade with other low sustainability countries, but this does not appear
to be the case.
The authors also highlight the difficulty in tracing seafood source when reprocessing
occurs, thus making true tracing of sustainability more uncertain.
Providing evidence for these important issues is valuable. The paper is well written
and the methods seem clear.
We thank the reviewer for their cogent summary of our manuscript and their assessment
of our research as valuable and well-written.
The major weakness/concern I have is the assumption that the sustainability of aquaculture
in a country was the same as their capture fisheries. This needs to be explored perhaps
by looking at the fraction of aquaculture production that is ASC or BAP certified
by country. However, since close to 80% of aquaculture production comes from countries
with low FMI scores I would guess that other than farmed salmon, almost all aquaculture
products would have low scores.
Sustainability issues in aquaculture are quite different from capture fisheries so
I believe a little more exploration by the authors of whether national FMI scores
really reflect aquaculture sustainability is warranted.
While the trade data do not show whether the product is wild caught or from aquaculture,
I suspect that the trade data on taxonomic group would be able to largely reflect
the means of production. For example I suspect that almost all carp, catfish and shrimp
that are traded come from aquaculture, as is probably true for most molluscs. The
authors could compare global capture fisheries production to aquaculture production
at the taxonomic level available in the trade data in order to make an estimate of
the proportion of imports for each country that come from aquaculture. The key issue
is whether the low sustainability score of imports for high FMIp countries is largely
driven by their source being aquaculture.
We appreciate the reviewer highlighting the potential issues with combining aquaculture
and wild capture products in our analysis. While these issues are not directly solvable
given the limitations of the available data, the comments of the reviewer led us to
conduct a parallel analysis that attempts to partially address the concern. In the
parallel analysis (called the aquaculture exclusion analysis in the updated manuscript),
we removed trade relationships associated with potential aquaculture products (see
L167-180) and report the corresponding results alongside our original analysis (see
Supplement). The results of the aquaculture exclusion analysis align closely with
the results of our original analysis, suggesting that our findings are largely robust
to the aquaculture assumptions we have implemented.
A closely related issue that the authors did not discuss is whether by achieving higher
sustainability standards the best performing countries actually reduce their seafood
production, thus leading to more imports with the net result that the overall environmental
impact is negative. For example in the U.S. severe restrictions on several swordfish
fisheries to reduce bycatch had the result that the U.S. imported more swordfish from
countries with less concern about bycatch. The net effect was to reduce the sustainability
of the swordfish being consumed. Is there evidence that high FMI countries have been
reducing their wild capture consumption, while importing more seafood with lower FMI
scores?
This is an important dynamic to the interaction of domestic production, although we
believe it is outside the scope of our analysis given its complexity. At the global
scale it would be challenging to identify this type of relationship, especially given
the coarse nature of the FAO food balance sheet data (that is needed to estimate consumption).
However, the GTA data would be a great option for doing a species-specific analysis
of trade flows that could be matched with a different data source that characterizes
consumption. Of course, the temporal dimension of the effect that you identify is
important; we would expect sustainability measures to potentially lead to higher production
in the long term, so this would make identification of the effect extremely challenging
via analysis with annual comparisons. Previously published literature suggests that
the decline in production from developed countries in recent decades is associated
with more stringent management and regulations (Ye and Gutierrez 2017). The same paper
offers this as an explanation for why we see increased trade flows from developing
to developed countries. We expanded discussion of these relationships based on comments
from both reviewers (L423-426).
The global trade data are available by subscription, but it should be possible for
the authors to present a summary of the data in tabular form as they compiled it.
I don’t know enough about the database to know what the options are.
We have provided a summary of the data for readers to review as well as additional
information on where/how readers can obtain the GTA data in our updated data sharing
documentation.
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