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Original SubmissionFebruary 3, 2023
Decision Letter - Shrisha Rao, Editor

PONE-D-23-03185Evidence against implicit belief processing in a blindfold taskPLOS ONE

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The reviewers liked the paper and found the authors work and claims valuable and persuasive. However, one reviewer suggested considering an additional work and improving the discussion in light of the same.

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Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #2: Yes

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Reviewer #1: Summary: In this work, the authors want to see if humans exhibit altercentric bias. They study this through a modification of existing object detection task, by introducing a blindfold (which may or may not be opaque). This ensures the stimuli remains the same, which was not so in earlier work.The participants are familiarized with the blindfolds, and the agent's belief could therefore, be inferred based on participants' experience. The second study is to understand the relationship between egocentric bias and altercentric bias (the two are expected to be opposing). To do this, they employ an action detection task. They find that reaction times were driven by congruency (not belief; therefore no altercentric bias).

The authors have pre-registered the experiments, and the statistical analyses look fine to me.

The complete data is NOT yet available, but I see that the authors have stated they'd make it available on OSF upon acceptance.

I am not sure whether there is enough of a contribution or novelty here, but I don't have any issues with the experiments, analyses, or conclusion.

Reviewer #2: This paper addresses a central question about implicit theory of mind by addressing the existence of an altercentric bias crated by another person's false belief. The two experiments are very impressive and the data carefully analysed. Very impressive.

The main objective is to sharpen claims based on existing evidence. For this the authors combined the method pioneered by Kovacs et al (2010) with transparent/opaque goggles. An effect with this addition would show that the bias could not be due to the socio-attentional processes but must be due to a cognitively inferred belief. Indeed if the altercercentric bias could have been found under these conditions it would have been valuable evidence for its existence. But the evidence is strongly negative.

This creates a different problem of interpretation as the authors acknowledge in their General Discussion. One of these counterarguments is that inferring a person's visual access from which goggles the person is wearing is beyond implicit processing. So no wonder that no altercentric bias could be found under these conditions. This counterargument could be attenuated if there was evidence that implicit processing is possible with goggles. There was, I think to remember, such evidence in the context of automatic gaze following (Teufel et al 2013). The authors might want to sharpen their conclusions with the help of this work—provided no strong counterevidence has accumulated since.

Teufel, C., Alexis, D. M., Clayton, N. S., & Davis, G. (2010). Mental-state attribution drives rapid, reflexive gaze following. Attention, Perception, & Psychophysics, 72(3), 695-705.

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We have reviewed the reference list and added the following reference due to the comment of reviewer #2: Teufel, C., Alexis, D. M., Clayton, N. S., & Davis, G. (2010). Mental-state attribution drives rapid, reflexive gaze following. Attention, Perception, & Psychophysics, 72(3), 695-705.

Response to reviewer #1:

Reviewer #1: Summary: In this work, the authors want to see if humans exhibit altercentric bias. They study this through a modification of existing object detection task, by introducing a blindfold (which may or may not be opaque). This ensures the stimuli remains the same, which was not so in earlier work.The participants are familiarized with the blindfolds, and the agent's belief could therefore, be inferred based on participants' experience. The second study is to understand the relationship between egocentric bias and altercentric bias (the two are expected to be opposing). To do this, they employ an action detection task. They find that reaction times were driven by congruency (not belief; therefore no altercentric bias).

The authors have pre-registered the experiments, and the statistical analyses look fine to me.

The complete data is NOT yet available, but I see that the authors have stated they'd make it available on OSF upon acceptance.

I am not sure whether there is enough of a contribution or novelty here, but I don't have any issues with the experiments, analyses, or conclusion.

We thank the reviewer very much for their positive feedback.

Response to reviewer #2:

Reviewer #2: This paper addresses a central question about implicit theory of mind by addressing the existence of an altercentric bias crated by another person's false belief. The two experiments are very impressive and the data carefully analysed. Very impressive.

The main objective is to sharpen claims based on existing evidence. For this the authors combined the method pioneered by Kovacs et al (2010) with transparent/opaque goggles. An effect with this addition would show that the bias could not be due to the socio-attentional processes but must be due to a cognitively inferred belief. Indeed if the altercercentric bias could have been found under these conditions it would have been valuable evidence for its existence. But the evidence is strongly negative.

This creates a different problem of interpretation as the authors acknowledge in their General Discussion. One of these counterarguments is that inferring a person's visual access from which goggles the person is wearing is beyond implicit processing. So no wonder that no altercentric bias could be found under these conditions. This counterargument could be attenuated if there was evidence that implicit processing is possible with goggles. There was, I think to remember, such evidence in the context of automatic gaze following (Teufel et al 2013). The authors might want to sharpen their conclusions with the help of this work—provided no strong counterevidence has accumulated since.

Teufel, C., Alexis, D. M., Clayton, N. S., & Davis, G. (2010). Mental-state attribution drives rapid, reflexive gaze following. Attention, Perception, & Psychophysics, 72(3), 695-705.

We thank the reviewer very much for their enthusiastic feedback and their valuable input. As recommended, we included the argument in our discussion (page 32 line 730 and following):

Parts of this complex process, such as deriving whether an agent can or cannot see based on previous experience with a blindfold, have been shown to occur on an automatic level in the simpler context of gaze following [39]. However, in the context of false belief situations, the process as a whole may have been too complex to function spontaneously.

and also sharpened our conclusion (page 34 line 781-782):

That is, we may spontaneously be influenced by the perspective of others if it can be grasped at an immediate perceptual level, such as in gaze following or visual perspective taking, but may not take their perspective or belief into account if it needs to be inferred in a cognitively more effortful way, for example, from one’s own experience about visual access

We did not skip the entire argument, though, because we still believe that it is possible that inferring the belief of a person based on previous experience with a blindfold is cognitively more demanding than inferring whether or not a person can see through a blindfold in a simpler context like gaze following.

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Decision Letter - Joydeep Bhattacharya, Editor

Evidence against implicit belief processing in a blindfold task

PONE-D-23-03185R1

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PONE-D-23-03185R1

Evidence against implicit belief processing in a blindfold task

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