Peer Review History
Original SubmissionJune 6, 2022 |
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PONE-D-22-16293Regionality of short and long period oscillators in the suprachiasmatic nucleus and their manner of synchronizationPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Shigeyoshi, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Aug 14 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS ONE style templates can be found at https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=wjVg/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_main_body.pdf and 2. Please review your reference list to ensure that it is complete and correct. If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. Additional Editor Comments: Your manuscript was reviewed by two expert reviewers. Although both reviewers recommended accepting your manuscript with minor revisions, both expressed several concerns. Please address all of the concerns and incorporate specific suggestions that both reviewers made. I also noticed that the sample size (the number of biological replications) of the experiments shown in Fig. 1 and 4 is not clearly stated. Please state the sample size explicitly. Also, please follow the ARRIVE 2.0 guidelines (Experimental animals | ARRIVE Guidelines The ARRIVE guidelines 2.0: Updated guidelines for reporting animal research | PLOS Biology) and provide the necessary information (e.g., age and sex of rat used, type of anesthesia used, etc.) in your manuscript. PLoS ONE doesn’t perform language editing and the accepted manuscript will be published as-is. One of the reviewers indicated several places where grammar needs improvement. Please consider using an independent scientific editing service. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: In this study by Morimoto et al., the authors aimed to 1) localize regions in the SCN with different circadian periods and, 2) determine which, if any, region “dictates” the overall period of the whole SCN. To do this, the authors used population and single-cell bioluminescence imaging of horizontal SCN slices from transgenic rats expressing a bioluminescent reporter of the core clock gene Per2. They found a phase wave of bioluminescence that originated in the caudal SCN, which predominantly expressed Vip mRNA and was phase-advanced compared to the rostral SCN. In coronal SCN slices, the caudal SCN also exhibits shorter periods of bioluminescence than the rostral SCN. However, in horizontal SCN slices, the authors find no difference in period between the rostral and caudal SCN (treated with vehicle). They do observe that the caudal SCN in the horizontal slice exhibits a shorter period than the rostral SCN when the slice is desynchronized with forskolin. Finally, they find that when the horizontal SCN is physically separated, the caudal SCN has a much shorter period than the rostral SCN. Surprisingly, the period of the intact SCN is comparable to that of the rostral, not caudal SCN. The authors claim that this suggests the rostral “long-period region” of the SCN determines the overall period of the SCN. In general, the manuscript is well written. There are a few places in the manuscript where grammar needs improvement to help the reader better understand the text, but overall the writing is acceptable. The statistics also seem acceptable. This manuscript will be of interest to circadian biologists and, perhaps, neuroscientists in general. The manuscript will be improved when the authors address the following concerns. Fig 1C The authors should quantify the propagation of the phase wave in the horizontal slice along the rostral-caudal, medial-lateral axes. One possible way to do this is to plot a center-of-luminescence trajectory as in Brancaccio et al. Neuron 2013, Patton et al. Nat Comm 2020, and others. Figs 3A, B, E The authors use forskolin to disrupt intracellular synchrony in a horizontal SCN slice and observe that the caudal SCN has a shorter circadian period than the rostral SCN. However, in vehicle treated horizontal slices, the period in the rostral SCN is not significantly different from the caudal SCN. How does this fit with the conclusion from Fig. 2 that in coronal slices, the caudal SCN has a shorter circadian period than the rostral SCN? Are coronal slices “more desynchronized,” similar to the effect of adding forskolin to a horizontal slice? The phase maps shown in Supplementary Fig 2B suggest that in some horizontal slices treated (c, d, perhaps e), the caudal SCN has a shorter period than the rostral SCN, but this is not quantified. Figs 3C,D Was acrophase synchronicity different between rostral and caudal ROIs? The authors clearly show that there is more phase dispersal in forskolin treated slices, but this is perhaps unsurprising given the authors’ previously published work (Koinuma et al. EJN 2013, Sujino et al. Sci Rep 2018). It would be exciting to see if the observed rostral-caudal period difference in the horizontal slice is accompanied by a rostral-caudal difference in phase dispersal. Reviewer #2: This report provides valuable insight into the organization of circadian rhythms generated by cells within the rat SCN. The focus is on two major structures, the core and shell, which differ in their major cell constituents, and additional subregions in horizontal brain slice cultures. The study used VIP expression to delimit the core, and AVP neurons are enriched in the shell. Nevertheless, the SCN contains several other neuronal types and glial cells in both regions, which were not addressed in this study, and these cells are also capable of generating circadian rhythms. More details are needed on the choice of procedures used and the possible implications of the results to better understanding the multiple timing functions of the SCN. Major questions: The point raised by the authors that the caudal SCN region with a shorter intrinsic circadian period may coordinate the timing of circadian rhythms throughout the SCN deserves additional discussion. For example, what are the implications for entrainment, and are there studies in mice or other mammals supporting this rhythm pattern? An additional point needing discussion is on the relevance of these in vitro results to the SCN of the intact animal and its integration with the rest of the brain. Are the authors certain that the differences in period and phase observed between SCN regions is not an artifact of the isolation of neural tissue, separating it from other SCN regions and SCN afferents that could serve in coordinating rhythms in SCN subregions? Is there any evidence that the SCN in the animal also shows these patterns? Do any ablation studies in rats or hamsters support the connectivity of rhythmic regions and phase wave propagation described here? Line 121, What was the dorsal-ventral position for the horizontal sections? How much of the retinohypothalamic tract remained, or was the section above this tissue? Line 159, Excluding grids from the analysis where rhythm data deviated from the fitted cosine wave seems to conflict with providing an accurate characterization of the SCN’s behavior. Why was this assumption that the circadian rhythm must match a cosine wave used here? Circadian rhythms have many different waveforms. It is important to justify why this step was done and indicate how much data was excluded. Are the authors certain that they are not missing important circadian properties? Imagine a cell type or group of cells that are only active briefly during the day but provide an important role. They would not easily match the fitted function. Line 238, Why was forskolin used to disrupt circadian rhythms in this study and the previous one? Why was it preferred instead of an agent that acts more specifically like known neurotransmitters or peptides used in intercellular communication between SCN cells? Minor concerns: Line 138, Provide EMCCD camera gain and exposure times used. Line 269, This phrase seems vague and needs more clarity and description: “…showed different circadian periods by anti-mitotic treatment…” The study appears to be focused on certain SCN neurons. What might be the role of glial cells or other neuron types in these coordinated circadian rhythms? Could they have generated some of the bioluminescence signal measured, and how could that affect the seeming interpretation that VIP an AVP cells are most responsible for the observed phenomena? ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-22-16293R1Regionality of short and long period oscillators in the suprachiasmatic nucleus and their manner of synchronizationPLOS ONE Dear Dr. Shigeyoshi, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. Your revised manuscript was reviewed by the same reviewers who reviewed your original manuscript. Although both reviewers recommended accepting your current manuscript for publication in PLoS ONE, reviewer #2 indicated two concerns. The reviewer suggested changing the statement in the Abstract. If you agree with this suggestion, please make the change accordingly. Also, please provide a specific plan for how you will make the original data available. Please submit your revised manuscript by Nov 03 2022 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If you have cited papers that have been retracted, please include the rationale for doing so in the manuscript text, or remove these references and replace them with relevant current references. Any changes to the reference list should be mentioned in the rebuttal letter that accompanies your revised manuscript. If you need to cite a retracted article, indicate the article’s retracted status in the References list and also include a citation and full reference for the retraction notice. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: Relative to my response to Review Question 2: To allow for other possible interpretations of the data, I suggest that the authors qualify or moderate the statement in the Abstract "We found that the longer circadian rhythm of the rostral region entrains the circadian rhythm in the caudal region". A better statement might read "... the rostral region appears to entrain the circadian rhythm in the caudal region". I am concerned that a rigorous test of entrainment was not performed, which would require more sophisticated control of the interactions between the oscillators including a repeated control and release from entrainment and assessment of subsequent phase. Also, I did not see a statement saying that all the data are available or would be made available in a data repository if the paper is accepted for publication. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No ********** [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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Regionality of short and long period oscillators in the suprachiasmatic nucleus and their manner of synchronization PONE-D-22-16293R2 Dear Dr. Shigeyoshi, We’re pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been judged scientifically suitable for publication and will be formally accepted for publication once it meets all outstanding technical requirements. Within one week, you’ll receive an e-mail detailing the required amendments. When these have been addressed, you’ll receive a formal acceptance letter and your manuscript will be scheduled for publication. An invoice for payment will follow shortly after the formal acceptance. To ensure an efficient process, please log into Editorial Manager at http://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/, click the 'Update My Information' link at the top of the page, and double check that your user information is up-to-date. If you have any billing related questions, please contact our Author Billing department directly at authorbilling@plos.org. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please notify them about your upcoming paper to help maximize its impact. If they’ll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team as soon as possible -- no later than 48 hours after receiving the formal acceptance. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information, please contact onepress@plos.org. Kind regards, Shin Yamazaki, Ph.D. Section Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (optional): Reviewers' comments: |
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PONE-D-22-16293R2 Regionality of short and long period oscillators in the suprachiasmatic nucleus and their manner of synchronization Dear Dr. Shigeyoshi: I'm pleased to inform you that your manuscript has been deemed suitable for publication in PLOS ONE. Congratulations! Your manuscript is now with our production department. If your institution or institutions have a press office, please let them know about your upcoming paper now to help maximize its impact. If they'll be preparing press materials, please inform our press team within the next 48 hours. Your manuscript will remain under strict press embargo until 2 pm Eastern Time on the date of publication. For more information please contact onepress@plos.org. If we can help with anything else, please email us at plosone@plos.org. Thank you for submitting your work to PLOS ONE and supporting open access. Kind regards, PLOS ONE Editorial Office Staff on behalf of Dr. Shin Yamazaki Section Editor PLOS ONE |
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