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PONE-D-20-33032 A biochemical mechanism for time-encoding memory formation within individual synapses of Purkinje cells PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Mandwal, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Given the delay in resubmission, although understandable in these times, your manuscript has been reviewed by two new reviewers. Both agree that the manuscript has merits, as did the previous reviewers. Nevertheless, both also identified a number of issues that prevent acceptation of the manuscript in its current format. As you will find, most comments can be addressed by textual changes, following the suggestions made by the reviewers. These changes should focus at further clarifying the applied methodology and the interpretation of the results in view of the existing literature. On top of the required changes in the text, especially reviewer 1 also addresses a few points that may require further experiments. The expression of mGluR7 by Purkinje cells needs to be unequivocally addressed, either by providing appropriate literature references or by experimental means. The second and third remark could be addressed experimentally, or the authors have to explain clearly why they would prefer not to do so. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jan 08 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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We will change the online submission form on your behalf. [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: N/A ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Authors propose a novel cellular mechanism to explain the timing of Purkinje cell (PC) simple spike pauses as reported during Pavlovian eyeblink conditioning. This PC intrinsic timer mechanism would be initiated by mGluR7 activation ends with opening/closing of GIRK channels. This idea is largely based on experimental work from the Hesslow group. I agree with the authors that the concept of a cell-intrinsic timing mechanism is very attractive, since indeed, solely synaptic plasticity (LTD/LTP) seems unable to explain the millisecond precise timing of simple spike pauses. For this reason, I consider the work presented by Mandwal et al. as very relevant. I don’t feel myself in the position to comment on the modelling aspect of this paper. However, I have four comment on the biological assumptions/ implications of this work. Major comments: 1) The central assumption of this intrinsic timing mechanism is that Purkinje cells express mGluR7. However, the evidence supporting this assumption is very thin. They refer to the Philips 1998 paper, but the specificity of the antibodies presented in this study is controversial. As far as we know, also based on Mouse Allen Brain atlas, mGluR7 is expressed in many forebrain structures, but the expression on PCs is very minimal, if not present at all. Authors should address this topic and cannot simply state that “mGluR7 resides on Purkinje cell synapses”. In addition, we challenge the authors to prove that mGluR7 is indeed in expressed in PCs, either experimentally or by providing better references. 2) Regarding the CR onset: in their modeled data, the CR onset is always around 75 ms after CS onset (see figure 9). We know that that mice indeed have a relatively fixed latency to CR onset, no matter the ISI (see Chettith and Medina paper), but other species like rabbits and ferrets, seem to have a CR onset that shift with the ISI. That means: the longer the ISI, the later the CS onset. 3) The shape of the Purkinje cells suppression for a long ISI (black trace in figure 9) is not very typical. The suppression should stop at the onset of the expected US. Same for green and red trace. Compare shape of simple spike suppression with Hesslow’s data, for instance the 2007 Jirenhed paper. 4) Authors mention the minimal ISI possible to train an animal (±100 ms). Based on their model, what is the longest ISI possible to train a Purkinje cell? Minor comment: Pavlovian conditioning is introduced with the cliché idea of a bell as CS. We challenge the authors to go back to Pavlov’s work and find a reference to ‘the bell’. Most probably Pavlov never used a bell. The flow of the paper is often messy, sometimes poorly written, and need another round of thorough editing. For a next submission, please provide the figures ordered properly. Reviewer #2: We appreciated a lot the novel work of the authors in simulating underlying mechanisms of cerebellum-driven associative learning, as a result of biochemical processes mediating intrinsic changes of Purkinje cell synapses. More detailed comments have been submitted as a separate file. ********** 6. 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PONE-D-20-33032R1 A biochemical mechanism for time-encoding memory formation within individual synapses of Purkinje cells PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Mandwal, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Apr 09 2021 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Laurens W. J. Bosman, Ph.D. Academic Editor PLOS ONE Additional Editor Comments (if provided): Dear Dr. Mandwal, First of all, I would like to thank you for the revised version of your manuscript. This version has been evaluated by the same two reviewers as during the previous round. As you will notice, both reviewers agree that the new version is a clear improvement. Both reviewers offer a number of minor suggestions for improving the text. In my opinion, these are issues that can be relatively easily solved in the text. However, reviewer 1 is not satisfied with the evidence presented regarding the presence of mGluR7 in Purkinje cell synapses. mGluR7 plays a central role in the current manuscript (see for instance lines 101-103: "Thus, we start from the assumption that Purkinje cells express mGluR7 and that the mGluR7 receptors indeed activate the conditional response behaviour in the Purkinje cell."). Consequently, the presence of mGluR7 is crucial for the argumentation presented in this manuscript. Reviewer 1 indicates that, in their eyes, mGluR7 protein expression in Purkinje cells is disputed, and may be restricted to terminals in the cerebellar nuclei. The authors point a.o. to RNA-expression (Allen Brain Atlas data), but this does not address the subcellular expression pattern. I hope you will understand that this poses a problem for me as editor. Given the general positive feeling of the reviewers and myself, and given the substantial effort that you delivered in improving the manuscript, I would feel sorry to reject this manuscript. On the other hand, the current controversy regarding mGluR7 expression by Purkinje cells is too central to the manuscript to ignore. I see two solutions: either the authors take up the challenge of reviewer 1 and demonstrate convincingly that mGluR7 protein is present at the subcellular sites as assumed in the manuscript, or the authors acknowledge that there are substantial challenges to the current assumption. If the authors have a better idea, I will be open to that solution as well. Following option 1, the issue of putative aspecific staining should be addressed, following option 2, it should be made clear what the consequences are for the (other) conclusions of this study. Kind regards, Laurens Bosman [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: N/A ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: 1) mGluR7 expression on PC: The authors have added a few sentences to the material and methods, but do not seem to realize the controversy around the statement that ‘mGluR7 resides on Purkinje cells”. The authors have added: "Although the body of literature regarding mGluR7 in the cerebellum is limited and despite some controversy [29], there is significant direct evidence that Purkinje cells do express mGluR7 receptors on their entire cell body and dendritic branches [30, 32]. More importantly, the effects of 6-(4-Methoxyphenyl)-5-methyl-3-(4-pyridinyl)isoxazolo[4,5-c]pyridin-4(5H)-one hydrochloride (MMPIP) as an mGluR7 selective antagonist replicate the results of mGluR7 knockouts [33], while MMPIP also has an effect on blocking the conditional response in Purkinje cells [13]. Thus, we start from the assumption that Purkinje cells express mGluR7 and that the mGluR7 receptors indeed activate the conditional response behaviour in the Purkinje cell." They refer to the following papers: Ref 29: Kinoshita et al., 1998 This is absolutely the best (and most recent) study that addresses mGluR7 expression on PC. This study cannot be ignored by simply saying “some controversy”. The Kinoshita et al., 1998 study is the only study that makes use of proper mGluR7 KO controls. All the other studies lack proper controls (i.e. mGluR7 KO). Kinoshita et al., 1998 reports: “Even in the mGluR7-deficient mouse, however, weak immunostaining was occasionally seen in the cytoplasm of neuronal cell bodies, especially in large neurons including Purkinje cells and motor neurons, as well as in Bergmann’s glia in the cerebellar cortex. Therefore, weak immunostaining which was occasionally observed in neuronal cell bodies and Bergmann’s glia in the rat and wild-type mouse was not considered to represent mGluR7-LI. Thus, neither mGluR7a- nor mGluR7b-LI was found in neuronal cell bodies in the present study." Instead, the Kinoshita 1998 conclusively points towards a presynaptic localization of mGluR7b on PC axon terminals in the cerebellar nuclei (Fig 14) and “Purkinje cells, though not equipped with mGluR7a, might express GluR7b in their axon terminals of recurrent axon collaterals, as well as in those of projection fibers to the deep cerebellar nuclei and lateral vestibular nucleus” Ref 30: Philips et al 1998: This study lacks controls. Ref 32: Ohishi et al, 1995: Similar to 30: lack of controls, this is the on of the reason why the same group repeated this study and published it as Kinoshita et al., 1998. Ref 33: Kinzie et al., 1995: No controls and the presented data lacks detail. Without showing data, they report “In the adult, mGluR7 mRNA expression all but disappears in granule cells, while mGluR7 mRNA expression in Purkinje cells is maintained. Thus, the central assumption of mGluR7 residing on PC dendritic spines (fig1) is most likely wrong. Again, I challenge the authors to provide experimental data supporting mGluR7 expression in PC. Otherwise, the authors have to acknowledge the controversy in a more prominent place in the manuscript (introduction!), without simply saying ‘some controversy” while they refer to the best work done on PC mGluR7 expression. 2) CR onset No further comments. 3) PC suppression No further comments, well explained. 4) ISI duration No further comments, thanks. Further comments: Include: Yousefzadeh et al 2020, Internal clocks, mGluR7 and microtubules. Reviewer #2: We thank the Authors for having addressed the comments raised in the first review round. The manuscript is significantly improved. Some additional points that should still be addressed are reported in the attached file. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". If this link does not appear, there are no attachment files.] While revising your submission, please upload your figure files to the Preflight Analysis and Conversion Engine (PACE) digital diagnostic tool, https://pacev2.apexcovantage.com/. PACE helps ensure that figures meet PLOS requirements. To use PACE, you must first register as a user. Registration is free. Then, login and navigate to the UPLOAD tab, where you will find detailed instructions on how to use the tool. If you encounter any issues or have any questions when using PACE, please email PLOS at figures@plos.org. Please note that Supporting Information files do not need this step.
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