Peer Review History
Original SubmissionMarch 26, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-08555 Origami folding: Memory load effects on acquisition of sequential skills PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Zhao, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Both reviewers agreed that the study is interesting and timely, but that it needs some polishing before being published. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please submit your revised manuscript by Jul 11 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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The PLOS ONE style templates can be found at https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=wjVg/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_main_body.pdf and https://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/file?id=ba62/PLOSOne_formatting_sample_title_authors_affiliations.pdf Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 2. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: No ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Review the manuscript titled as “Origami folding: Memory load effects on acquisition of sequential skills” (PONE-D-20-08555) I find this study is interesting. Major issues 1. Using within-subject design, the first trial, participants were novices, but for the 2nd or 3rd and the 4th trials, whether participants have been proficient for the primary task then more memory resources have left for secondary task? Therefore, the secondary task for the 2nd , the 3rd and the 4th is not under the same situation of the 1st trial. 2. Authors may cite some previous paper folding studies dealing with the acquisition of sequential skills, any papers there or this study is the first study? 3. Any results comparing the folding of box, chair, frog etc.? 4. Whether folding the different shapes will impose the same level of difficulty? Minor issues 1. Memory load rather than memory loads --- line 49 2. One folding step rather than a folding step --- line 109 3. Any hypotheses before conducting the experiment? --- Research Question section Reviewer #2: Thank you for the submission. The design of the study is interesting, however, I am very confused with the aim of the study. The major reason might be that the research question and conclusion are not coherent with the methodology as well as the analysis. In the research question section, the aim was made explicitly on “using dual-task paradigm to dissociate the memory load on execution from acquisition”. One would expect to see comparison between execution and acquisition. However, the actual analyses were on interaction effects between secondary task and number of trials. To be exact, the author conducted repeated measure separately on various the secondary tasks comparing the effect between with and without the secondary task on an individual students’ completion time across different tasks (yet what is 4 repetition in here?). Learning time or performance is not reported at all. The author stated “There was no speed-accuracy tradeoff” but it doesn’t mean that the completion time is equivalent to accuracy. Also, as the author described on page 16, RT is related to the task complexity. Of course there is a main task effect in the result. Later in the conclusion, the author stated “main effect of secondary task type (indicating performance)” which added even more confusion… so what are being tested? In addition to that, Line 72-73 & 77-78, added more confusion in understanding what is being tested in here. In general, how well one acquire a skill is measured by performance. However, the first statement sounds like they are two different things and thus they are being compared in this study. Then in the later statement, the author tried to compare performance with change of performance which is invalid comparison. These two statements are confusing. Other than the unclear aim, in the procedure, page 15 line 349 – 358, participants who fold the Origami wrongly were given more time and chance to learn and practice again. This is NOT a fair learning condition. Thus I won’t be surprised when the author claimed Line 462-464 “we did not observe cases where a dual task variant influenced performance while it did not affect learning (i.e. change in 464 performance)”. Also, in the analysis (page 17), when the author wrote “ANOVA …2x4…(results) revealed”, I assumed this was a two-way ANOVA and was about to comment on the abnormal degree of freedom. But soon I saw Greenhouse Geisser-correction was applied, then I realised this is actually a repeated-measures ANOVA, and everything makes a lot more sense. It would be a lot clearer if the author can describe clearly right at the beginning. Furthermore, it is recommended to test the assumption of sphericity before the main analysis. In the result section, I am not surprised that there is no effect for auditory secondary task. The core of dual-task paradigm is to have a secondary task that take the same working memory resources with the primary task. Learning Origami on the screen is basically a visual task which has nothing to do with auditory loop. Moreover, I do see the value of this study if the aim of the study is to identify which secondary test would potentially affect the learning of origami (which is actually closer to the running head). The author conducted the study with different secondary task, and it’s a shame that the effect of all the secondary task are not compared directly. Yet, in order to achieve this, it would require the author to rewrite (and maybe even re-analysis) the whole article with a clearer (and actually different) aim. Minor changes: Line 41 inconsistent referencing style Line 57, change “showed a increase” to “showed an increase” Line 57, replace “with” with “when” Line 68, “vs.”, do you mean “and?” Line 71, “4 repetitions” or “4 attempts”? The participants folded the shape 4 times, that is 3 repetitions, right? Or the participants could fold the paper while learning but that original attempt didn’t count? Later in table 1 (page 13-14, line 313 ), the participants actually have to fold the same shape 5 times. This is quite confusing here. Please illustrate clearly. Line 93-109 go into methods Section “Origami Folding Task” Describe more about the machine of learning origami or sequential motor skills. See reference below. Line 130, for origami task, it is understandable why visuospatial sketchpad is needed as the person is required to see and read the picture. However it is not unclear why phonological loop is also needed for such a visual task. Please elaborate. Line 209, 206 “ [54, https://osf.io/p3tyf/]” The web is not working - page not found. Line 220 “part of 4 Bachelor of Science theses”? part of 4-year Bachelor of Science thesis? part of the 4 theses for a Bachelor of Science programme? Page 15 line 360: RT ---- PLEASE present both the spelled-out and the short form when the abbreviation first appeared. I keep questioning why the authors keep using completion time as reaction time for the whole time until the discussion which is the end of the manuscript! Reference: Castro-Alonso, J. C., Ayres, P., & Paas, F. (2014). Dynamic Visualisations and Motor Skills. In W. Huang (Ed.), Handbook of Human Centric Visualization (pp. 551-580). New York, NY: Springer New York. Wong, A, Marcus, N, Ayres, P, Smith, L, Cooper, G.A, Paas, G.W.C, & Sweller, J. (2009). Instructional animations can be superior to statics when learning human motor skills. Computers in Human Behavior, 25(2), 339–347. doi:10.1016/j.chb.2008.12.012 Wong, A., Leahy, W., Marcus, N., & Sweller, J. (2012). Cognitive load theory, the transient information effect and e-learning. Learning and Instruction, 22(6), 449-457. doi:10.1016/j.learninstruc.2012.05.004 ********** 6. 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Revision 1 |
PONE-D-20-08555R1 Origami folding: Memory load effects on acquisition of sequential skills PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Zhao, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Please address this point made by Reviewer 1: "The level of learners' expertise may be a confounding factor in the design", and all points made by Reviewer 2. In this second revision, I might not ask for another round of external peer reviewing to decide about this interesting manuscript. Please submit your revised manuscript by Oct 19 2020 11:59PM. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: (No Response) Reviewer #2: All comments have been addressed ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: I Don't Know ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: Thank for the revised version. I really appreciate the revisions, however, I still have concern about my first comment on the design issue. The level of learners' expertise may be a confounding factor in the design.... Would authors like to run another experiment with between-subject design? Although authors have put my concern as limitation, but the reported experiment may have design issues given no another experiment. Reviewer #2: Thank you for the revision. This version is made clearer that the authors are actually investigating in the type of cognitive resources rather than the cognitive load induced by learning origami. The previous version focused on the cognitive load which is a slightly different concept from resources. It is recommended to also change the keywords (and probably also the title) so not to confuse other new readers. Moreover, another question arose – was the study going to test the cognitive resources that is relevant to learning *motor task through visualisation*, or to learning *procedural skills* as the author stated multiple times? If the aim is the first one, then the experimental setting makes sense. The secondary tasks were visuospatial-related that were relevant to the learning tasks (i.e. motor tasks) and the learning means (i.e. visualisations). Moreover, the author stated a multiple time in the article and also in the reply to the first author that the aim is to study the learning of procedural skills. Then in the experimental setting, the secondary task should be procedural- or sequential- related. That means the secondary tasks should be some tasks that might hinder participants from memorising the correct sequence. Otherwise the conclusion would not follow from the design. This is also the reason why I put "I don't know" about the rigour of the statistical analysis, as the analysis method largely follows from the study aim and hypothesis. Also, authors replied to the first reviewer that this is the first study – maybe it’s true when looking at learning origami under repetitive practices; but it’s definitely not the first study dealing with acquisition of sequential skill through looking at origami (see the reference that I recommended before). In this revised version, there are still some issues with sentence structures. For example, line 52 “when participants concurrently solve[ing] a cognitive memory load task” What is a cognitive memory load task? Cognitive memory load is not an adjective. What type of tasks that you are referring to? Another example in line 55 “Yet an impact of load on performance does not necessarily imply an impact on learning (i.e., improvement of performance across trials with practice)” i.e. (id est) means “in other words, such as”. What does it mean by no impact on learning such as improvement of performance? Or as simple as missing a subject after adjustive in line 75 “As folding Origami can require cognitive as well as motor control,”…etc. With no intention to list out all the language issue, it is recommended to undergo another thorough proofread before re-submission. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. 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Revision 2 |
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