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Original SubmissionMay 12, 2020 |
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PONE-D-20-14035 Validation of suitable genes for normalization of diurnal gene expression studies in Chenopodium quinoa PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Nazgol Emrani, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. Your manusript has been seen by three reviewers. All three identified issues with design of the study and to various extent with methods and their description and support of conclusions by the data. Since the publications criteria #3 and #4 are not met your are required address this issues and ammend experiments. Of particular concern is the timing of taking samples and comparisions made, genes slected to be included in the study, and confusing, inconcise description of Figures amd insufficient support/arguments for dismissing reference genes. Please submit your revised manuscript by December 1, 2020. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
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Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 3. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 4. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes Reviewer #3: Yes ********** 5. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: The manuscript entitled: “Validation of suitable genes for normalization of diurnal gene expression studies in Chenopodium quinoa” use three statistical algorithms (BestKeeper, geNorm and NormFinder) to validate potential candidate genes for normalization of diurnal expression studies in C. quinoa. Mayor concerns: 1) In my opinion and after going thoroughly to the manuscript I do not find any biological question that the authors want to address. Even when the tittle of the manuscript is related to diurnal gene expression no conclusions, no discussion are given related to any diurnal expression study. 2) Rather than compared two different ecotypes, even when they have different time period of flowering they should do some comparison between day and night (circadian clock). 3) The authors choose, in their word three genes that represent the Amaranthaceae family, my concern is what have to do the rice there? Neither an explanation nor argument in discussion. 4) Also they analyze and made conclusion based on few publications to conclude that it is a problem with normalization. So my question is what happens with many publications related to transcriptome analysis that used qPCR for gene expression? 5) In my opinion the authors of this manuscript performed a nice statistical experiments and interpretation of data for their genes that it is a plus, however it will be better to go to a Journal of plant methods. Again, no biological address is discuss or presented. Minor concern: 1) For this reviewer it was impossible to find the Danish accession, as the authors must be aware “Titicaca” is a name of a lake between Peru and Bolivia where a lot of quinoa is grown. May be the accession also is from Peru. In these days is very important to have very clear from where the accession is coming. 2) The authors also write Danish accession or Titicaca accession, it must be one way. Reviewer #2: The manuscript “Validation of suitable genes for normalization of diurnal gene expression studies in Chenopodium quinoa” represents a very useful study aimed to find the most valid reference gene(s) which could be used in the study of circadian rhythmic gene expression in the important crop quinoa. The selection of appropriate reference gene(s) with a maxiumum expression stability is a crucial prerequisite for a successful study of gene expression. The authors used several programs in standard use such as NormFinder and GeNorm, utilized in silico transcriptomic resources as well as careful experimental validations. The topic belongs to the range of articles published in PLoS one. The manuscript is well written and easy to follow. I have only a few comments. 1. Please, can you describe the simulation of the BBX expression in more detail? I could not find, how it was performed. 2. It is useful to design the primers “across” introns, to exclude amplification of the traces of gDNA. The quinoa genome is available, it would be useful to add this information. 3. Not only the choice of the gene, but also the selection of primers, are important. Can you briefly discuss the possible influence of primer choice (e.g. PCR efficiency) on the results? 4. The reference gene to normalize circadian geen expression experiment in the close relative of quinoa (C. ficifolium) has been recently published in Planta (250; 2019). Can you please compare your results with those? Actin11 was found as the best single reference also in your study. How big is the advantage to use two references compared to a single reference gene? Reviewer #3: 1. Harvesting time points have been falsely mentioned in Line 79 as ‘every two hours’ as against every four hours that was actually done. 2. Line 206 is erroneous. Needs to be rectified. 3. The authors have used just one target gene, which is insufficient, and that too has not been introduced properly in terms of its cyclic expression pattern. The expected time of its peak has not been mentioned when the gene was first introduced in the text, so that the downstream analysis could be better understood. In an ideal study, four to five well known diurnal genes should have been taken, the peaks of which would be distributed to different parts of the day, most importantly dawn as well as dusk. Also, it is good to include genes with sharp (such as LHY, CCA1 having high expression) as well as shallow peaks (such as TOC1 having lower expression) so that the detrimental effect of the reference genes could be best understood. 4. The authors have used a new concept of simulation in RT-qPCR analysis that uses an arbitrary Cp value of 20 across all samples, in place of a reference gene, for normalizing the target genes. This concept somehow does not serve the very purpose of a reference gene whose main job is to minimize sample to sample variations arising in a sample set, due to human errors in pipetting and minor differences in RNA/ cDNA qualities and quantities. The concept needs to be supported by citing examples from any published literature if it exists. 5. The authors have taken just seven samples for sensitive diurnal studies and that too only for one day. Normally, a bi-hourly sampling should be pursued for at least two consecutive days, which should give similar expression pattern across both days. Since they have made a 4-hourly sampling for only one day, it becomes all the more important to check for the sample quality by testing expression of known diurnal genes like LHY, TOC, CCA1, etc. This will also eliminate the need to use simulation studies, as done by the authors. 6. Fig. 6 is not clear. In the figure legend it is mentioned that the expression of IDH-A with respect to other reference genes is depicted but the graphs are confusing to interpret. 7. Fig. 5 has been inadequately explained and vague interpretations have been drawn which makes it difficult to understand what the authors are trying to point out. How did the authors reach the conclusion that IDH-A and PTB genes are the best reference genes, without proving that they do not cycle, themselves. 8. A reference gene can be deemed unfit for diurnal experiments if it itself shows cycling behaviour or if its expression is very high or low, all of which can disturb the peaks of the target genes. The authors must clearly state the reason for rejecting some reference genes, while accepting others, by normalizing the data of all the reference genes chosen against the geometric mean of the best two or three reference genes. This will bring out the cyclic expression profile of the reference genes, if present. Doing this will certainly give more weightage to the claims made by the authors, as to why some genes can be used but the others can not to normalize diurnal datasets in Quinoa. ********** 6. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No Reviewer #3: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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PONE-D-20-14035R1 Validation of suitable genes for normalization of diurnal gene expression studies in Chenopodium quinoa PLOS ONE Dear Dr. Emrani, Thank you for submitting your manuscript to PLOS ONE. After careful consideration, we feel that it has merit but does not fully meet PLOS ONE’s publication criteria as it currently stands. Therefore, we invite you to submit a revised version of the manuscript that addresses the points raised during the review process. The revised version addressed most of the the previous concerns and suggestion. Reviewer #2 still has reservations regarding the assumption of constant Cq value 20 across all samples in context potentially varying quantities (tube to tube differences) after DNAse treatment, reverse transcription (after Nanodrop) and the Nanodrop measurement itself. Although MIQUE guidelines state "...it is advisable to measure all samples with a single method only and to report this information" they also state "The preferred method for quantifying RNA uses fluorescent RNA-binding dyes (e.g., RiboGreen), which are best for detecting low target concentrations." This needs to be addressed in light of publication criterion 3. Aside from the reviewer comments you are encouraged to use the MIQUE checklist (https://rdml.org/files/docs/MIQE_checklist.xls) and include it as supplement table. Please submit your revised manuscript by Feb 20, 2021. If you will need more time than this to complete your revisions, please reply to this message or contact the journal office at plosone@plos.org. When you're ready to submit your revision, log on to https://www.editorialmanager.com/pone/ and select the 'Submissions Needing Revision' folder to locate your manuscript file. Please include the following items when submitting your revised manuscript:
If you would like to make changes to your financial disclosure, please include your updated statement in your cover letter. Guidelines for resubmitting your figure files are available below the reviewer comments at the end of this letter. If applicable, we recommend that you deposit your laboratory protocols in protocols.io to enhance the reproducibility of your results. Protocols.io assigns your protocol its own identifier (DOI) so that it can be cited independently in the future. For instructions see: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/s/submission-guidelines#loc-laboratory-protocols We look forward to receiving your revised manuscript. Kind regards, Christian Schönbach, Dr.rer.nat. Academic Editor PLOS ONE [Note: HTML markup is below. Please do not edit.] Reviewers' comments: Reviewer's Responses to Questions Comments to the Author 1. If the authors have adequately addressed your comments raised in a previous round of review and you feel that this manuscript is now acceptable for publication, you may indicate that here to bypass the “Comments to the Author” section, enter your conflict of interest statement in the “Confidential to Editor” section, and submit your "Accept" recommendation. Reviewer #1: All comments have been addressed Reviewer #2: (No Response) ********** 2. Is the manuscript technically sound, and do the data support the conclusions? The manuscript must describe a technically sound piece of scientific research with data that supports the conclusions. Experiments must have been conducted rigorously, with appropriate controls, replication, and sample sizes. The conclusions must be drawn appropriately based on the data presented. Reviewer #1: Partly Reviewer #2: Partly ********** 3. Has the statistical analysis been performed appropriately and rigorously? Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 4. Have the authors made all data underlying the findings in their manuscript fully available? The PLOS Data policy requires authors to make all data underlying the findings described in their manuscript fully available without restriction, with rare exception (please refer to the Data Availability Statement in the manuscript PDF file). The data should be provided as part of the manuscript or its supporting information, or deposited to a public repository. For example, in addition to summary statistics, the data points behind means, medians and variance measures should be available. If there are restrictions on publicly sharing data—e.g. participant privacy or use of data from a third party—those must be specified. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 5. Is the manuscript presented in an intelligible fashion and written in standard English? PLOS ONE does not copyedit accepted manuscripts, so the language in submitted articles must be clear, correct, and unambiguous. Any typographical or grammatical errors should be corrected at revision, so please note any specific errors here. Reviewer #1: Yes Reviewer #2: Yes ********** 6. Review Comments to the Author Please use the space provided to explain your answers to the questions above. You may also include additional comments for the author, including concerns about dual publication, research ethics, or publication ethics. (Please upload your review as an attachment if it exceeds 20,000 characters) Reviewer #1: I would like to thanks the authors for answer my concerns and clarify most of my points. However still I think that represent more a methodology rather than address a biological question. Based on that I will leave the decision to accept/reject the manuscript in the hands of the Editor. Reviewer #2: The authors of the manuscript “Validation of suitable genes for normalization of diurnal gene expression studies in Chenopodium quinoa“ improved their article substantially in the course of revision and clarified most issues. However, one of my concerns persists. It is the simulation method, when the authors took the constant Cp value 20 across all the samples. This approach would work supposing that exactly identical amount of cDNA was added to each qPCR reaction. The authors relied on Nanodrop measurements of RNAs before performing reversion transcription and DNAse treatment. However, DNAse treatment and reverse transcription may generate tube-to-tube differences in the final cDNA yield. Thus, I do not consider this simulation to be an appropriate tool to verify reference gene stability. Fluorescence-based estimation of cDNA amount shall be used instead to measure equality of input to RT PCR reaction. Please, consult the paper Libus et al., Biotechniques 2006. ********** 7. PLOS authors have the option to publish the peer review history of their article (what does this mean?). If published, this will include your full peer review and any attached files. If you choose “no”, your identity will remain anonymous but your review may still be made public. Do you want your identity to be public for this peer review? For information about this choice, including consent withdrawal, please see our Privacy Policy. Reviewer #1: No Reviewer #2: No [NOTE: If reviewer comments were submitted as an attachment file, they will be attached to this email and accessible via the submission site. Please log into your account, locate the manuscript record, and check for the action link "View Attachments". 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